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KittenKong · 2022-01-27T11:01:03+00:00

Going on twitter. She was in a Women’s ward (signage says ‘women’ but later this was disputed by staff). Another patient on ward ‘Annie’ (not real name). Visitor comes in ‘Hello Fred’. Woman patient complains that there is a male in the ward. Staff come on handed and tell her that there isn’t (and that there were no single sec wards) - and treated as if she is a troublemaker. Woman mysteriously discharged PDQ, although not quite feeling well enough in herself. [[https://twitter.com/gillyism/status/1486596070096478209?s=21]] Baroness is on the case.

EeeICouldRipATissue · 05/02/2022 14:46

Innocenta
There are positions other than 'trans women are the most oppressed' and 'trans women are the least oppressed, you know.

waitwhat
Not according to our elected representatives. From the article

answer to a question about whether it’s bigoted to say only women have a cervix, Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said: “We need to bear in mind that the trans community are amongst the most marginalised and abused communities.”

Asked to give his thoughts on Kemi Badenoch’s reported comments that LGBT activism has gone from wanting freedom to marry who you want, to men wanting to use women’s bathrooms, London Mayor Sadiq Khan replied: “The trans community is one of the most vulnerable in our society

All you're quoting there though is innocenta's point?.
That there is positions between most oppressed and least oppressed?
But you seem to be arguing otherwise
Your key words in the quoted bit are amongst and one of the most marginalised communities.

Terfydactyl · 05/02/2022 14:49

@EeeICouldRipATissue

A biological woman will always look woman enough because that’s what they are Like the biological woman this thread is about, you mean? Yeah, that didn't work out so well for her, did it as she clearly didn't look '' woman '' enough.

Didnt work out well for gilly? Who was removed from the hospital. Whilst still not well. Worked out just fine for the other woman who was allowed to stay. I dont understand that if it really was a woman, definitely not a man why would one woman have to leave ? Why and how would the hospital prove after the fact that it was a biological cunty type woman? If that could be done easily without breaking all kinds of rules, why not do it at the time?

Rheopecticfluid · 05/02/2022 14:56

I dont understand that if it really was a woman, definitely not a man why would one woman have to leave ? Why and how would the hospital prove after the fact that it was a biological cunty type woman? If that could be done easily without breaking all kinds of rules, why not do it at the time?

It certainly sounds a bit stinky to me.

DdraigGoch · 05/02/2022 15:00

@EeeICouldRipATissue

That link shows there has been murders, though. How many murders do you seem not enough to bother about and therefore shows they're '' safe '' (in somes eyes?)

A murder. One. In many years. Compared with god knows how many homicides committed against female victims.

After adjusting for population size, trans people are far less likely to be murdered than the population as a whole.

Waitwhat23 · 05/02/2022 15:01

@EeeICouldRipATissue

Innocenta There are positions other than 'trans women are the most oppressed' and 'trans women are the least oppressed, you know.

waitwhat
Not according to our elected representatives. From the article

answer to a question about whether it’s bigoted to say only women have a cervix, Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said: “We need to bear in mind that the trans community are amongst the most marginalised and abused communities.”

Asked to give his thoughts on Kemi Badenoch’s reported comments that LGBT activism has gone from wanting freedom to marry who you want, to men wanting to use women’s bathrooms, London Mayor Sadiq Khan replied: “The trans community is one of the most vulnerable in our society

All you're quoting there though is innocenta's point?.
That there is positions between most oppressed and least oppressed?
But you seem to be arguing otherwise
Your key words in the quoted bit are amongst and one of the most marginalised communities.

Nope. I'm arguing that elected representatives are doing nothing to address other oppressed groups. If transpeople are not the most oppressed, why is the focus solely, obsessively on tackling transphobia? Where is the concern for other oppressed groups?

Terfydactyl · 05/02/2022 22:53

@EeeICouldRipATissue

You must be proud of your contribution to this situation Never mind you know, the woman kicking off at the other woman, she's an innocent in all this is she?! Trans people and allies, this is your fault! Look what you made us do!

I know I'm late to this but how fucking telling is the last line? Who of us heard this as the crap was being beaten out of us?

LOOK WHAT YOU MADE US DO

Every woman reading this has shivers up her spine now.

Terfydactyl · 05/02/2022 23:05

@barleybadminton

Do you or do you not think that women have the right to a single sex, female only ward where they can be guaranteed that everyone in there is actually female?

But that isn't practically possible.

And what about male guests, porters, nurses, cleaners and doctors?

You know the NHS is vast right. I mean enormous As of this year 1.4 million staff and a budget of 100 million. This as far as I know does not include GPs or dentists GPs 300 thousands Dentists 47 thousand

So in fact it is practically possible. Many women have multiple times said when necessary having a fully female team.

So you are as usual wrong.

EeeICouldRipATissue · 06/02/2022 00:45

know I'm late to this but how fucking telling is the last line?
Who of us heard this as the crap was being beaten out of us?
Yes, that was my whole POINT!!!
It's abuser language.
So why can people not hear it or refuse to hear it when the exact same shit is being said from so called GC side?!

LOOK WHAT YOU MADE US DO

Every woman reading this has shivers up her spine now.

Migrainesbythedozen · 06/02/2022 03:39

@EeeICouldRipATissue

know I'm late to this but how fucking telling is the last line? Who of us heard this as the crap was being beaten out of us? Yes, that was my whole POINT!!! It's abuser language. So why can people not hear it or refuse to hear it when the exact same shit is being said from so called GC side?!

LOOK WHAT YOU MADE US DO

Every woman reading this has shivers up her spine now.

@EeeICouldRipATissue So why can people not hear it or refuse to hear it when the exact same shit is being said from so called GC side?!

It was said from the TRA side.