Lush Binder Collection

[Sexnotgender]

Assuming this is a way for predominantly children to circumvent parents and get their hands on a binder.

@Lovelyricepudding

I often wonder about something much more basic with binders - hygiene. If you only have one how often do you wash it if you are wearing it everyday? Do you just give it a quick swirl in the basin if you don't want your mum to see it? How do you dry it?

When DS was younger he played a lot of football so quite often I'd have a car full of sweaty boys 😷 Let me tell you, the smell of a pair of well worn shinpads is is something to behold and lads did develop rashes and irritations from wearing them a lot. Bearing in mind its easy to remove shin pads and give your legs a good airing. I can't imagine how unhealthy binders are purely from a hygiene perspective before you throw skin conditions, skeletal development and lung conditions in the mix.

The scheme specifies it's restricted to one per customer, too. Soooo... even if you can afford to buy an additional one so you can rotate them for washing, they won't sell you it.

@MrsWednesdayteatime

The original insta post says to measure carefully as they can't do refunds/exchanges.

So if NB kido gets home with their much wanted breast binder and they've measured incorrectly, and its way too tight....then what? How do they know how tight is too tight. I can imagine most would just carry on anyway, cos you expect it to pinch a bit anyway.

breast binding is NEVER safe

Exactly! They are supposed to be really tight, that is the whole point of them, so how tight is too tight?

The other thing I cannot get my head around is how like Jameela Jamil can make a huge thing about young women loving their bodies, not worrying about how much they weigh, not photoshopping themselves or getting surgery to be 'perfect'....but at the same time think that young girls crushing their developing breasts with painful equipment so that they don't grow properly is progressive and something to be celebrated? I don't get it?

I really do think the game is up very soon though. How can anyone look at this and think, 'yes, this is a bright progressive future'?

@Thefartingsofaofdenmarkstreet it's palpable, isn't it, the dissonance between body positivity and "do anything to your body in the name of pursuing your gender ideal" - from Jameela Jamil and so many others.

My tiny mind still thinking about medical contraindications for binding* & has occurred that surely being on blockers is one? I don’t know how quickly they deplete bone mass, but you don’t want to be mixing a reduction in bone density with basically crushing your ribcage.

Again considering depleted bone mass, girls who wish to bind as part of a broader pattern of behaviour related to retaining a childlike body (which of course hasn’t been & currently can’t be studied purely because of the oppressive environment around these things so there’s only sparse anecdata available) are also at more risk of fractures due to poor bone density (it’s rare children & adolescents with [untreated] eating disorders manage to take sufficient nutritional supplements to meet their needs). They are also at heightened risk of loss of consciousness (simply because you’ve stacked on another potential cause); skin issues; getting into serious difficulties if they “cannot”** remove their binder to exercise in line with manufacturers’ guidance; and potential complications - both physical and mental - from trying to measure “success” with binder sizes, ignoring the fact that our ribcages cannot lose weight.

There are specific issues relating to girls with ASD binding too. In case there’s any doubt, not all of the following apply to all girls with ASD - just as you’d girls with ASD who’d run miles from a binder precisely because of the sensory input it gives. Hence some being directly contradictory:
• girls with ASD thinking it is part of The Rules for being Non-Binary that you have to bind & becoming distressed when unable to do so even if they find it unpleasant
• deliberately wearing a binder that is too tight due to sensory-seeking behaviours
• issues with processing/understanding pain leading to injury
• decreased ability to “mask” due to effects of binding impacting on behaviour & relationships leading to distress
Those are just the ones that occur off the top of my [headache-filled] head having not really slept, am sure there are others - there are definitely some dancing out of reach just on the edges of my mind…

Essentially, some of the girls who we know, even without the research being permitted are particularly likely to claim a non-“cis” identity are scrambling to get/do something with the potential to cause them even more damage than it would [most/many?] of their peers. Horrific.

• Obviously it’s wildly unhealthy for anyone to do it; I suppose I mean in the sense of girls who may suffer more serious damage more quickly, IYSWIM? ** Inverted commas as while obviously it remains physically possible there will be girls & young women to whom it feels utterly impossible - in the same way they are physically capable of eating but you might as well be asking them to undertake a quick & totally unaided trip to the moon & back.

I see the Baroness has written to the owner. Does he even know or care what the shops are up to?

I’m old enough to have been a Cosmetics To Go customer and thought this man had scruples and ethics. Now I don’t think so. ££££££££££

The baroness is amazing

LETTER TO LUSH
This LUSH + Ogre evangelism will harm impressionable young customers. The medical harms of binding and and the social harm of being 'evangelistic' about binding, are discussed in this article
www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-is-mermaids-promoting-breast-binding-at-events-for-young-people-

Honest to fuck these people are sick. Completely sick. Never will I set food in their chops again.

Set foot in their shops 🙄

This is the email I wrote to them - I’m not sure how good it is, I was so angry and upset!

To whom it may concern,

I have just seen Lush Paddington’s Instagram about offering breast binding apparatus. For a company that is against cruelty to animals I am amazed that you are advocating this barbaric practice for free to girls. And without parental consent?

Had you done any research into breast binding (besides Mermaids which is a misinformed propaganda machine) you would know that breast binding is incredibly harmful to young developing women. Not only can it cause rib constriction,bone deformity and breathing difficulties, and risk of heart attacks. (
ftmtopsurgery.ca/blog/ftm-faq/health-consequences-chest-binding/
) But hey - what’s a few deformed bodies if you’re on “the right side?” Why listen to the thousands of women who see this as child abuse? Many doctors also had agree but are too scared to speak out due to the vice like grip of stonewall. If you follow the news you will see the tide is turning against stonewall and that the BBC, channel 4 and the department of health have all pulled out of its diversity scheme due to its exact nature being the opposite of what it preaches.

I’m a secondary school teacher at an all girls school and I see the first hand effects of the trans trend every day - how would you handle an 11 year old girl telling you that they’re a boy and that I can’t tell their parents? This is not a trans student, this is a child with problems and your facile, thoughtless approach to these vulnerable children is dangerous and a safeguarding issue.

I buy from lush all the time - no longer. Until you stop supporting the abuse of young girls and erasure of women then I won’t support you. But so long as no rabbits are getting hurt - phew!

Yours,
Xxxx

Well. That’s waaay more eloquent than my mentally composed ‘f off you sick b*s’!

protest today

Comment on their Instagram post says they have temporarily suspended the partnership whilst they sort out some logistical issues.

They really should have gone full anti vivisection league and printed off poster sized photos...

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz sounds loeltothe grownups have taken over finally from * (him/they).

*like (not sure what that word was!)

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

Comment on their Instagram post says they have temporarily suspended the partnership whilst they sort out some logistical issues.

Hope that means furious backpedalling

I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to RTFT, have Lush responded to anyone who has raised concerns about this? I'm astounded and, quite frankly, disgusted that the post is still up on their instagram page.

I haven’t read the whole thread- just from the OP this is absolutely shocking. How dare Lush be so casual about promoting dangerous permanently physically damaging devices that should go absolutely nowhere near a child?

@FindTheTruth

protest today

Excellent 👍

@Dinosaurhearmeroar

This is the email I wrote to them - I’m not sure how good it is, I was so angry and upset!

To whom it may concern,

I have just seen Lush Paddington’s Instagram about offering breast binding apparatus. For a company that is against cruelty to animals I am amazed that you are advocating this barbaric practice for free to girls. And without parental consent?

Had you done any research into breast binding (besides Mermaids which is a misinformed propaganda machine) you would know that breast binding is incredibly harmful to young developing women. Not only can it cause rib constriction,bone deformity and breathing difficulties, and risk of heart attacks. (
ftmtopsurgery.ca/blog/ftm-faq/health-consequences-chest-binding/
) But hey - what’s a few deformed bodies if you’re on “the right side?” Why listen to the thousands of women who see this as child abuse? Many doctors also had agree but are too scared to speak out due to the vice like grip of stonewall. If you follow the news you will see the tide is turning against stonewall and that the BBC, channel 4 and the department of health have all pulled out of its diversity scheme due to its exact nature being the opposite of what it preaches.

I’m a secondary school teacher at an all girls school and I see the first hand effects of the trans trend every day - how would you handle an 11 year old girl telling you that they’re a boy and that I can’t tell their parents? This is not a trans student, this is a child with problems and your facile, thoughtless approach to these vulnerable children is dangerous and a safeguarding issue.

I buy from lush all the time - no longer. Until you stop supporting the abuse of young girls and erasure of women then I won’t support you. But so long as no rabbits are getting hurt - phew!

Yours,
Xxxx

Great email !

another protest photo. what amazing women and they moved fast!!! the banners are brilliant. and what good letters ppl on here have sent too. 💐