Gay men being subject to abuse for their sexuality

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Or Homophobia as we know it.

The belief that the trans-activists would stop by just attacking lesbians turns out to have been a miscalculation; gay men are a target now, and the community is only just starting to wake-up to the threat it is facing.

Woke Homophobia

Funny though how the calls of bigotry and transpohobia cease to have little to no impact these days though. Seems you guys overused it. It's now meaningless.

Is that what you think I'm doing?

Guess what. When you repeatedly try to treat women's sexual boundaries as a subject to negotiate, rather than lines to accept, that is what you're doing.

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

why can't transitioning make a trans woman more attractive to lesbians?

like women are a kit or something

if you collect all the pieces then you magically become one

That's actually how biology works. If we were to replace all the "male sexed" parts with a "female sexed" parts, down to chromosomes and all, in what way exactly would the person in question remain a "male'?

lesbians just never get a rest from creepy men wanting to have sex with them, do they?

It's like the male psyche can't handle the idea of a class of women who just don't want anything to do with them

Sounds like a win to me, actually. There would be no stigma or discrimination against gay men and lesbians who aren't militantly transphobic.

Ah

So stigma and discrimination is a good thing so long as it it's only experienced by people you don't like or agree with.

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

Those who insist on explicitly excluding trans people having same sex relationships would ve criticized as transphobic, those who do not, would not

could you be any more homophobic?

I'm visualizing something like this situation might be an ideal scenario for one poster on this thread.

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A few years ago, I used to play a MMORPG in which I joined a LGBT guild because I wanted a place where I could be myself without risking being harassed or bullied if people found out that I am a lesbian. I had a great time in this guild and made a lot of friends.

About 3 months after I joined, a transwoman in the guild sent me a private message in-game asking if I would be interested in dating her. I politely declined. She asked if it was because she was trans and I said yes. I tried to explain as nicely and politely as possible that I just can’t deal with penises, male bodies, and male voices. I just can’t find them attractive, especially penises because just seeing them brings up memories of when I was raped as a child. She demanded that I date her anyway and threatened to tell everyone in the guild that I was transphobic if I didn’t. She also demanded that I send her nude pictures of myself. I refused. I took screenshots of the chat log just in-case, logged off, and went to bed feeling awful.

While I was asleep, the transwoman did exactly what she said she would do. She told the guild’s leader that she asked me for make-up advice and that I responded by saying she could never look like a real woman and that I had called her a bunch of slurs. When I turned my PC on the next day, I was greeted by a message from the guild leader in the guild’s group chat on Skype (this was before Discord existed) that I was going to be removed from the guild because of my alleged transphobia. I denied it and a few of the other members came to my defense, saying it didn’t seem like something I would do, as I was always very friendly to everyone. I sent the screenshots of the chat log thinking it would clear my name, since she straight up said she was going to lie about me. Instead of focusing on that, the discussion shifted to me refusing to date her. I was told, by people that had been my friends for months, that my “genital preference” was transphobic and that I should just get over my trauma or just kill myself. I was told that even if I am not attracted to her, I have to date her to affirm her identity as a trans lesbian. I was given an ultimatum, date her or be removed from the guild. I refused and was kicked out.

From that point on, I was bullied by my former guild-mates whenever we happened to come across each other in-game. When I joined a new guild, the transwoman and the leader of my old guild found out. They messaged the leader of my new guild and told him that I was a racist and was using hacks. This was shortly after there was an outbreak of hackers using an exploit in the game to delete parts of another player’s character data causing their characters to become corrupted and unable to be logged into (great Korean free-to-play MMO security pretend-thumbs-up-emoji) and there was quite a bit of paranoia amongst the community because of it. I was kicked from that guild too. The in-game bullying continued for a bit and I eventually quit a few weeks later.

I was bullied in school for being a lesbian when I made the stupid mistake of reading a lesbian romance manga in class. The internet was my escape from that, where I could be myself without being afraid. I’ve tried to join other LGBT and lesbian focused communities on sites like reddit but ever since that incident with that MMO guild and similar things I’ve seen happen to girls on places like /r/actuallesbians, I have been afraid to admit that I don’t find transwomen attractive. I’m afraid to tell my LGBT-supporting friends, no matter how close we are or how long we’ve been friends. I’ve tried using dating sites and it seems like most of the lesbians on there are predatory transwomen that demand sex. I’ve been feeling pretty lonely and depressed, often thinking about suicide.

Even though it seemingly started as a joke or meme, the supersexual community has been very welcoming to me. The people over at /r/SuperStraight and now /r/LGBS have been very friendly and accepting. This movement has given me a small glimmer of hope that this can change and it actually can get better.

Continues: oursuperstories.com/i-was-given-an-ultimatum-date-her-or-be-removed-from-the-guild/

@Jorrris

Funny though how the calls of bigotry and transpohobia cease to have little to no impact these days though. Seems you guys overused it. It's now meaningless.

Just like your cries of "misogyny" and "homophobia" lmaaao.

That's actually how biology works. If we were to replace all the "male sexed" parts with a "female sexed" parts, down to chromosomes and all, in what way exactly would the person in question remain a "male'?

oh yeah, cos that's a thing

can we confine our discussions to things that can actually happen?

How are you going to do that then Blue? 😂

That's actually how biology works. If we were to replace all the "male sexed" parts with a "female sexed" parts, down to chromosomes and all, in what way exactly would the person in question remain a "male'?

Are we straying into the science fiction genre now?

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

lesbians just never get a rest from creepy men wanting to have sex with them, do they?

It's like the male psyche can't handle the idea of a class of women who just don't want anything to do with them

This.

It's sick and is abusive. Rape culture.

They don't want you. Leave them alone.

I've read your story before Purgatory, it was shocking then and still is. I'm sorry you experienced such predatory behaviour and discrimination

That's actually how biology works. If we were to replace all the "male sexed" parts with a "female sexed" parts, down to chromosomes and all, in what way exactly would the person in question remain a "male'?

Gene editing in born humans isn't a thing, and SRS surgery does not create the sexual organs of the opposite sex. It is impossible. Just as it is impossible to meet the needs of people on the heart transplant list by removing one of their own kidneys and turning it into a heart.

Thank you for the good wishes, Bernard but it's not me. It's just me signal boosting the voices of women subjected to sexual coercion.

One of the good things about all this is I've got to meet all sorts of new people, including a bunch of lesbian separatists. quite eye opening for a hetero gal. they literally could not give 2 shits if they never meet a man again. they regard them as violent and useless.

sometimes i can see their point

But does OJ go out of his way to include transmen in his dating pool?

#silenceisviolence

That's actually how biology works. If we were to replace all the "male sexed" parts with a "female sexed" parts, down to chromosomes and all, in what way exactly would the person in question remain a "male'?

Bluebird this is even sillier than you saying male athletes have no physical advantages over female athletes!!! 😂😂

I believe OJ felt it was homophobic if women asked him whether he'd date a transman. So I certainly took that as a no way in hell would he date a transman.

Have we done the clownfish yet?

humans are not clownfish

Exactly. I’m sure he’d be happy to discuss this with Blue though.

Well, guess what. Too bad. You don't get to have that. You don't get to completely exclude trans women.

I wonder why it is you feel entitled to speak to women this way and to feel in such a position of power over them that you can command what they shall and shall not be permitted by you.

I could point out that you don't get to eradicate female people's sex based spaces and rights and exclude and punish the ones who won't do what you say. That this is the goal is now quite blatantly plain, as is what it reveals about attitudes towards women and homosexuality amongst those who support this political stance.

@Dozer

Wondering if/when people will challenge straight men on their sexual preferences!

Didn't that already happen with the "super straight" hashtag?

@Jorrris

Have we done the clownfish yet?

humans are not clownfish

m.youtube.com/watch?v=rV-Exeal17s

Can you imagine this thread in reverse where there's 1 young lesbian in her teens surrounded by 20+ bluebirds at school and online and in the community? I feel for teen lesbians I really do 😭

Some of the young detransitioners have spoken about experiences that have been distressing and traumatising. Despite their participation in sexual relationships under some coercion (both from individuals and the social group)

The coercion is chilling especially when you realise they want to make it law and remove same-sex rights.

I know it can be useful for informing lurkers but I often wonder if it's better to simply scroll past merailers, derailers and trolls instead of engaging