Gay men being subject to abuse for their sexuality

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Or Homophobia as we know it.

The belief that the trans-activists would stop by just attacking lesbians turns out to have been a miscalculation; gay men are a target now, and the community is only just starting to wake-up to the threat it is facing.

Woke Homophobia

Do you think trans people are in fact interested in dating transphobic bigots? Do you think that LGB people should be interested in dating homophobic bigots?

Statement A: I don't think we need to "eradicate genital preference", it's okay to have preferences.

Statement B: What I want to put an end to is the notion that genitals define whether one is a "real" man/woman or that they should are inherently excluded from gay/lesbian sexuality.

Statement C: What I want to put an end to is framing genital preferenceassexuality.

1. framing them as "preferences" automatically weakens the respect for homosexuality. I have a "preference" for people with brown or black hair, but would date blond(e)s given an atteactive enough personality. I have a "preference" for Marmite on my toast, but will settle for jam.

My sexuality is rather stronger than a preference!

2. statement A contradicts this line "^What I want to put an end to is...that they should are inherently excluded from gay/lesbian sexuality"

So it"s okay to be homosexual except you shouldn't exclude the opposite sex.

Let's go back to those questions. How far are you willing to go in order to make the lesbians submit?

Statement C: so how far are you willing to go to make the lesbians stop "framing genital preference as sexuality" then?

@Sn0tnose

Do you think trans people are in fact interested in dating transphobic bigots? Do you think that LGB people should be interested in dating homophobic bigots?

Ouchie 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

In an effort to oppose the stigma and discrimination against transgender people.

By creating stigma and discrimination against homosexual people and females needing single sex spaces instead.

Not really a win, is it?

Maybe Blue would like to pop over to Twitter and ask Owen Jones about dating transmen.

@Deliriumoftheendless

Maybe Blue would like to pop over to Twitter and ask Owen Jones about dating transmen.

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The homophobia on here from the usual suspects is horrible.

By the same logic, why can't transitioning make a trans woman more attractive to lesbians?
Because transitioning doesn't give transwomen the sex related bits that lesbians find attractive? It doesn't seem very complicated really?
People have a right to be attracted to whoever they are attracted to.

Most people base their sexual orientation on external physical characteristics, not on gametes. The external sexual characteristics that human beings are attracted to ARE NOT immutable.
Well,they kind of are. Vaginas,penises.....

@Deliriumoftheendless

Maybe Blue would like to pop over to Twitter and ask Owen Jones about dating transmen.

He doesn't go out of his way to argue that trans men are inherently excluded from male homosexuality. So why should I?

By the same logic, why can't transitioning make a trans woman more attractive to lesbians?

If it did to any significant extent, this thread wouldn't exist and you wouldn't be passionately trying to get transwomen laid by haranguing lesbians on t'internet.

@Artichokeleaves

In an effort to oppose the stigma and discrimination against transgender people.

By creating stigma and discrimination against homosexual people and females needing single sex spaces instead.

Not really a win, is it?

Sounds like a win to me, actually. There would be no stigma or discrimination against gay men and lesbians who aren't militantly transphobic.

Women by sex are excluded from male sexuality.

It isnt new.

It isnt going anywhere.

In your own words:

DEAL WITH IT.

I do not see how trans-inclusive definitions "undermine discrimination law".

You are either being deliberately disingenuous with this statement or deliberately lacking in intelligence.

In an effort to oppose the stigma and discrimination against transgender people.

You realise you're not actually opposing the stigma and discrimination against transgender people by promoting an idea of them as people who want access to women or men's bodies without their consent and who are willing to go to extreme lengths to stop people from exerting their sexual boundaries? Quite the opposite, and there will be plenty of trans people who are horrified at what you are demanding and threatening in their name.

Sounds like a win to me, actually. There would be no stigma or discrimination against gay men and lesbians who aren't militantly transphobic.

What form would be taken by this "stigma or discrimination against gay men and lesbians" who only dated their own sex?

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

By the same logic, why can't transitioning make a trans woman more attractive to lesbians?

If it did to any significant extent, this thread wouldn't exist and you wouldn't be passionately trying to get transwomen laid by haranguing lesbians on t'internet.

Is that what you think I'm doing?

There are cis lesbians who date trans women, it's just that in your obsessive transphobic bigotry, you immediately revoke their lesbian card.

The problem is your militant bigotry, nothing else.

why can't transitioning make a trans woman more attractive to lesbians?

like women are a kit or something

if you collect all the pieces then you magically become one

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Sounds like a win to me, actually. There would be no stigma or discrimination against gay men and lesbians who aren't militantly transphobic.

What form would be taken by this "stigma or discrimination against gay men and lesbians" who only dated their own sex?

Those who insist on explicitly excluding trans people would ve criticized as transphobic, those who do not, would not.

Sounds simple enough.

I'm actually scared for the teens reading this thread. I was very vulnerable at that age and was severely abused. My boundaries were trampled on and I was gaslighted by men with agenda's I didn't understand.

This is so horrific. Like legalised child abuse.

Sounds like a win to me, actually

stigmatising same sex attracted people and women who need single sex spaces sounds like a win to you?

yikes

Those who insist on explicitly excluding trans people having same sex relationships would ve criticized as transphobic, those who do not, would not

could you be any more homophobic?

[quote BluebirdsSong]@Tibtom
"Gay (or bisexual) men, not lesbians"

@FloralBunting
"Males are never lesbians. HTH."

Here's a thing: I don't care.

Trans lesbians are trans women attracted to women, which includes other trans women.

Just like how I can't force you to recognize and respect trans people's identities, you can't force me not to.[/quote]
So you're saying that any transwoman who would not have intercourse with another transwoman - yet would with an actual female woman - is transphobic?

There are cis lesbians who date trans women, it's just that in your obsessive transphobic bigotry, you immediately revoke their lesbian card.

They're not lesbians though are they. Obviously. Women may also be bisexual if they also date natal women. But if they are simply dating transwomen, then they are straight women. Not lesbians. However much you don't like that and hurl insults of transpohobia and bigotry in your rage and frustration. Facts are facts.

it's helpful of the poster to fully expose their reprehensible views

I've never met someone who unashamedly and openly says same sex attraction is wrong before. retro

I've never met someone who unashamedly and openly says same sex attraction is wrong before. retro

I have. Oddly enough they were evangelical Christian types. Ironic. I wonder if they're funding this movement?