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Gay men being subject to abuse for their sexuality

546 replies

secular111 · 07/08/2021 19:48

Or Homophobia as we know it.

The belief that the trans-activists would stop by just attacking lesbians turns out to have been a miscalculation; gay men are a target now, and the community is only just starting to wake-up to the threat it is facing.

Woke Homophobia

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Chickenyhead · 08/08/2021 02:19

Everything is a strawman I find when dealing with TRAs

yacketyyak · 08/08/2021 02:27

I'm so confused

Chickenyhead · 08/08/2021 02:30

@yacketyyak

I'm so confused
How so?
Tibtom · 08/08/2021 08:08

@RedDogsBeg

There seem to be an awful lot of them on that link, so here's a solution - date/fuck each other.

Same goes for Transwomen who claim to be lesbians, date/fuck each other.

Leave lesbians and gay men alone, they are same sex attracted not same gender attracted and undermining that is homophobic, homophobia is disgusting and is one of those categories protected under the hate crime legislation.

No-one is owed sex and if the people you want to have sex with don't want sex with you - tough, get over it.

Funnily enough, they seem to be allowed a 'genital preference'.
Tibtom · 08/08/2021 08:18

@FloralBunting

We really have shifted up a gear, you know. I don't know why, but TRA nonsense seems to be getting bolder. On my optimistic days, I think it might be because we've had more success in pushing back, so they feel they have to up the ante. But they are definitely being way more open with saying the quiet stuff out loud. The homophobia has been a feature all the way through, of course, but it has definitely seemed to level up in the past few months, and I do think it's because more gay men are pushing back. Some have been doing it for quite a while, some are really only just seeing what's happening. But this is all important critical mass stuff.

Keep bloody pulling, everyone.

I think the covid has made it harder - too much moved online away from material reality where it is obvious sex matters. Where the numbers of people actually supporting this is hidden and women's protests can be ignored.

We need to get back to real live meetings, protests in person etc.

Sexnotgender · 08/08/2021 08:23

Gay men being hounded from their jobs, for being attracted to men only. How progressive, hopefully this will waken a lot of people up.

Unfortunately targeting lesbians doesn’t have the same effect as women don’t really matter generally it seems.

Jaysmith71 · 08/08/2021 08:25

"There seem to be an awful lot of them on that link, so here's a solution - date/fuck each other."

Or go fuck themselves?

Jorrris · 08/08/2021 08:28

This is just a nonsensical strawman lol. Trans people do not base their sexuality on genitals

You speaking for all transpeople there are you?

Jorrris · 08/08/2021 08:30

There seem to be an awful lot of them on that link, so here's a solution - date/fuck each other."

So many don't want to do they. There seems to be an appalling desire from some to have sexual control over others. And that is the real problem.

Tibtom · 08/08/2021 08:33

This is just a nonsensical strawman lol. Trans people do not base their sexuality on genitals

Not on their genitals, just on their prefferred partner's. Hence men calling themselves lesbians and demanding women, not transwomen, sleep with them.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 08/08/2021 09:00

It would be nice to think that a trans onslaught on gay men might finally get Owen Jones to see what’s actually going on. But I’m not at all optimistic on that.

Abhannmor · 08/08/2021 09:12

Why do so many TRA posts end with 'lol'? Is everything really that funny....

Whatsnewpussyhat · 08/08/2021 09:47

This is just a nonsensical strawman lol. Trans peopledo notbase their sexuality on genitals

Oh look, 'sexuality', the word Stonewall and the trans lobby have been sneaking in to replace SEXUAL ORIENTATION so they can deny same sex attraction.

Even IF trans people based their sexual attraction solely on personality, the rest of the planet base theirs on sexed bodies, so why should gay people ignore their legally protected sexual orientation to provide validation to entitled members of the opposite sex?

FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 10:00

Sexuality just is. If you are 'basing your sexuality' on anything, you're clearly being performative and should chill out a bit.

And also stop trying to coerce and bully lesbians or gay men into sex, but that should go without saying really.

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:01

@Tibtom

This is just a nonsensical strawman lol. Trans people do not base their sexuality on genitals

Not on their genitals, just on their prefferred partner's. Hence men calling themselves lesbians and demanding women, not transwomen, sleep with them.

That's nonsense that only shows how little you know about trans people. Most trans lesbians end up witch each other.
BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:01

*with

Tibtom · 08/08/2021 10:03

That's nonsense that only shows how little you know about trans people. Most trans lesbians end up witch each other.

Gay (or bisexual) men, not lesbians

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:05

@RedDogsBeg
^"There seem to be an awful lot of them on that link, so here's a solution - date/fuck each other.
Same goes for Transwomen who claim to be lesbians, date/fuck each other.^

Most trans lesbians already do exactly that. You're just getting mad over the fact they call themselves lesbians while they do.

FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 10:06

Males are never lesbians. HTH.

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:08

@Whatsnewpussyhat

This is just a nonsensical strawman lol. Trans peopledo notbase their sexuality on genitals

Oh look, 'sexuality', the word Stonewall and the trans lobby have been sneaking in to replace SEXUAL ORIENTATION so they can deny same sex attraction.

Even IF trans people based their sexual attraction solely on personality, the rest of the planet base theirs on sexed bodies, so why should gay people ignore their legally protected sexual orientation to provide validation to entitled members of the opposite sex?

Tell me, is gay people's sexual attraction based on gametes and chromosomes?
Tibtom · 08/08/2021 10:10

Tell me, is gay people's sexual attraction based on gametes and chromosomes?

Both because people don't exist separately from their biology.

FloralBunting · 08/08/2021 10:11

Oh jolly good, are we going to have some open homophobia on a sunday morning? Haven't you got a church you can go and do that in today? It's a much more traditional setting for that sort of thing.

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:13

@Tibtom
"Gay (or bisexual) men, not lesbians"

@FloralBunting
"Males are never lesbians. HTH."

Here's a thing: I don't care.

Trans lesbians are trans women attracted to women, which includes other trans women.

Just like how I can't force you to recognize and respect trans people's identities, you can't force me not to.

FindTheTruth · 08/08/2021 10:13

OP yes gay men are waking up thank sanity. Mr.Menno "I want to apologise to the lesbians" in this video (at 54:00 in)

BluebirdsSong · 08/08/2021 10:15

@FloralBunting

Oh jolly good, are we going to have some open homophobia on a sunday morning? Haven't you got a church you can go and do that in today? It's a much more traditional setting for that sort of thing.
Haven't you gotten the news? The homophobic conservative Christians like Ben Shapiro or Matt Walsh have become brave gender critical, feminist allies (since they hate trans people just as much as you do)