While I was talking about differences in offending patterns between men and women, I see the thread has moved on to homophobia and how people define it.
I think outspoken elements in the modern trans activist movement look damn homophobic to me. One of the things that typified the homophobia I witnessed growing up was lesbians and gay men being told to "just try harder"to like the bodies of the opposite sex. There was also the frequent claim that it was okay to be gay, so long as gay men didn't talk about it. In practice, this seemed to mean that if a lesbian mentioned at work that she and [female name] had gone to DFS for a sofa at the weekend, she could be accused of "flaunting" her sexuality. I found this oppression of lesbians and gay men repugnant then, and I find it repugnant now.
Now, let's see what lesbians today are dealing with.
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"I’ve been officially out as a butch lesbian since the early 00’s (and my fam knew before then, like it was a surprise to no one even as a kid in the 90’s lmao). I’m black and the community I grew up in is/was super religious. I mean old school FIRE AND BRIMSTONE FOR SINNERS kind of shit.
"The opposition I faced with that is nothing, N-O-T-H-I-N-G compared to the hatred, contempt, and homophobia encountered when dealing with the trans community. I have been fighting this fight for years only to be told I’m lying. No waaaay a man would really tell you to suck dick and a bunch of women would cheer them on and blame YOU for not being inclusive it’s happening. No waaaay that’s true!
"Oh, you have proof?
"Well, um, those aren’t REAL transwomen.
"Really? Not a single one of those people is a “real” transwoman?: lesbian-rights-nz.org/shame-receipts/
:I have lost so many friends, some of them whom I’ve known since elementary school, to this cult. People who watched me get jumped and bullied in school numerous times, literally spit on at protests, and disowned by a huge chunk of my family because I stood up for my right to marry another woman someday. They went on to call me a bigot, transphobe, TERF (ironically I’d never heard this term until I was called it), the list goes on.
"When we got the right to marry and could no longer be denied other basic rights in the US, I figured the next logical step would be to focus on homosexuals in other places where they are still in literal danger; I assumed we would listen to them and see what we could do to help them obtain those rights too.
"Instead we ended up with this. Instead I had to fight the same exact fights again, but this time against the people who were once my friends.
"For a little while, I was spared some viciousness compared to white women because BLM was the hot take and no one wanted to be perceived as a racist. I watched the nicest woman I knew, who fosters animals and children and literally would not hurt a fly, be called Karen and told to kill herself while the aggressor was cheered on. All because she didn’t want to have sex with a male.
:As for my former immunity, that’s not been the case for a while. I have been called the N-word and other slurs while my own friends are only concerned I don’t “misgender” the person using them.
"I’m not going to lie, I am angry. I’m angry at gay men for by and large not giving a shit until it started happening to them, even as we lost TrueLesbians, BiologicalLesbians, and others, and ActualLesbians got taken over (and that’s just the stuff here on Reddit). I’m angry at the straights for the same, for not caring or paying attention until they were a target.
"THat being said, I am still very thankful for everyone standing up right now. I am thankful that there might finally be a future where I can focus my efforts on helping other homosexuals again rather than hunkering down in defense mode.
:Thank you, everyone.:
From: oursuperstories.com/i-have-been-fighting-this-fight-for-years-only-to-be-told-im-lying/ Italics are mine.
Now, gotta tell you, this sounds mighty familiar to what lesbians were subjected to before. The homophobia has just been given a new coat of paint.