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JKR takes on the victim blamers over the pornography tweeted at children

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OvaHere · 18/07/2021 10:35

I'm glad she's said this. It's despicable that TRA's subjected children to this in the first instance but even more so that they double down to blame the woman they targeted.

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1416680018416181248

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Helleofabore · 20/07/2021 09:47

Tesla73

Have you been saying the quiet bits out loud again Tesla? Tut!

Tesla73 · 20/07/2021 09:48

@Helleofabore - looks like it - i'm still new so still learning the subtle nuances of MN

OvaHere · 20/07/2021 09:51

I'm glad to see JK is getting lots of support. Great that Joanna Cherry is offering support and showing that differing opinions on one issue does not mean writing off a friendship.

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ScreamingMeMe · 20/07/2021 10:07

@Helleofabore

And I cannot believe that activists are posting that she staged this.

twitter.com/sophiabotha74/status/1417396883727785984?s=21

‘to play victim which is a typical t*ef ploy’Hmm

Nice bit of reverse there….

To deny and DARVO are typical TRA ploys. Desperate ones at that.
ScreamingMeMe · 20/07/2021 10:10

@bellinisurge

On the day this happens. Aisling Bee retweets a letter from someone who says that JKR should ask her husband before expressing an opinion.

twitter.com/weemissbea/status/1269635143024676866?s=21

Clown world

Lots of people saying that believing that biology is real and matters is "harmful", but unable to explain what the harm actually is.
MiladyBerserko · 20/07/2021 10:14

Mermaids getting in on the act. I wonder who is responsible for Mermaids' tweeting...

mobile.twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1417409359504629804

FloralBunting · 20/07/2021 10:16

I still can't get over that letter from a 'concerned lesbian'. A boy who likes pink might be a girl, and expanding the definition of lesbian to include people with dicks doesn't affect lesbians negatively. Jesus. Where do you even start with the tangle of stupidity there?

FloralBunting · 20/07/2021 10:18

Mermaids twitter being run by Violet Bott I see. "Dispicable"?

Waitwhat23 · 20/07/2021 10:21

@ScreamingMeMe I noticed that too. A poster tried to get a TRA to expand a bit more as to how biological reality is harmful and just kept getting told that it erases the existence of transpeople. How? No-one seems able to answer. And as we keep saying, what the hell does trans refer to if there is no such thing as two sexes?

IvyTwines2 · 20/07/2021 10:30

'JK Rowling' is currently trending on Twitter, and when you click on her name in the trends sidebar the top 5 tweets that come up are all hostile tweets (Jeff Brutlag, Sooz Kempner, Mark Grimshaw, Fox Fisher, Nicola Spurling). This doesn't seem to be based on popularity or timing: Rowling's own series of tweets with thousands of likes are not showing anywhere near the top of the 'Top Tweets'. If you manually type her name into the search bar and click 'top' you get a more varied selection of tweets, mostly positive. I have noticed this pattern over and over again with Twitter: the 'Top Tweets' it directs you to are hostile to women, and especially to JKR, and they're not based on likes or timing, but rather seem to be positioned because that's how the powers-that-be on Twitter want to shape your thinking.

Masdintle · 20/07/2021 10:43

Twitter needs to be much better regulated. It causes harm

yourhairiswinterfire · 20/07/2021 10:45

[quote MiladyBerserko]Mermaids getting in on the act. I wonder who is responsible for Mermaids' tweeting...

mobile.twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1417409359504629804[/quote]
They need to learn to read. She said 'trans activists'. Not trans people. Idiots.

The only people that have cast trans activists as a threat to women are the trans activists that have threatened to rape, kill, punch, shoot, dismember, curb stomp, bomb, set fire to, and run over women.

The world is waking up and seeing these activists for what they are-terrorists who are doing absolutely nothing to help trans people.

Datun · 20/07/2021 10:46

[quote MiladyBerserko]Mermaids getting in on the act. I wonder who is responsible for Mermaids' tweeting...

mobile.twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1417409359504629804[/quote]
Did Mermaids actually respond to J. K. Rowling posting a bomb threat and saying she had been threatened hundreds of times, saying they were sad to see her casting these people as a threat?

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Kinell. It's just beyond parody.

I've received all these threats! It's so sad to see you framing these threats as threatening.

Datun · 20/07/2021 10:49

She is receiving threats from threatening people, some of whom are transactivists, some aren't, some are trans, some aren't.

ScreamingMeMe · 20/07/2021 11:13

JK Rowling is responsible for a trans person getting threats, apparently (they haven't clarified how).

JKR takes on the victim blamers over the pornography tweeted at children
JKR takes on the victim blamers over the pornography tweeted at children
ArabellaScott · 20/07/2021 11:23

@FloralBunting

Mermaids twitter being run by Violet Bott I see. "Dispicable"?
Dispicable, indeed. As well as ridiculous.
FloralBunting · 20/07/2021 11:24

Obviously a threat is wrong. That needs no clarification or qualification at all.

So why the 'You started it' schtick? (Which is nonsensical because iirc, Spurling said that JKR was a danger to children after her essay).

If threats are wrong, they're wrong, aren't they? People are wrong to send Spurling threats and they're wrong to send Rowling threats. It's very hard to miss that Rowling is getting told by a number of high profile professional kind people that the threats she receives are entirely her own fault for speaking. Including, it seems, Spurling of the Eager Defamation.

thirdfiddle · 20/07/2021 11:26

If you live in a world where misgendering is "literal violence", who knows what constitutes a threat. Mild disagreement? Kittens?

ScreamingMeMe · 20/07/2021 11:29

@thirdfiddle

If you live in a world where misgendering is "literal violence", who knows what constitutes a threat. Mild disagreement? Kittens?
They've told her to kill herself (you can sew the posts in the screenshot), so it is actually awful.
EmbarrassingAdmissions · 20/07/2021 11:32

It's always distressing to receive such messages.

I don't think I know anyone (except the sort of person who thinks it's OK to send death messages, threats, and abuse to (say) JKR or pretty much any human) who would not decry the content of those screenshots.

thirdfiddle · 20/07/2021 11:33

Ok fair enough, that is horrible and I hope she's reported it.

thirdfiddle · 20/07/2021 11:33

Excuse cynicism, it's not without basis in experience.

Helleofabore · 20/07/2021 11:39

@ScreamingMeMe

JK Rowling is responsible for a trans person getting threats, apparently (they haven't clarified how).
So, again the misogynistic view that females are responsible for male violence.

That Spurling has received threats is, of course, reprehensible. But to accuse someone who has never interacted with you or probably even knows of your existence to have 'caused' them is a very wild accusation. But it is very much the current tactic and it has been clear to me exactly what sex the people deploying that tactic are.

ScreamingMeMe · 20/07/2021 11:40

@thirdfiddle

Excuse cynicism, it's not without basis in experience.
Oh I know.
ScreamingMeMe · 20/07/2021 11:44

But to accuse someone who has never interacted with you or probably even knows of your existence to have 'caused' them is a very wild accusation.

They have interacted. Spurling wrote an article about her and tweeted that she was a danger to children, and JK replied to that. That still doesn't mean she has responsibility for the threats to Spurling, of course.