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JKR takes on the victim blamers over the pornography tweeted at children

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OvaHere · 18/07/2021 10:35

I'm glad she's said this. It's despicable that TRA's subjected children to this in the first instance but even more so that they double down to blame the woman they targeted.

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1416680018416181248

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FloralBunting · 19/07/2021 14:05

I mean, seriously.

Every single time someone makes an asinine comment about her within my hearing, I am going to bring up the pipe bomb threats. The sexual assault comments are not always appropriate, but the illustrative power of telling people how kind you are while threatening to bomb someone who disagrees with you should sort the shit out good and proper.

paddlingon · 19/07/2021 14:16

My dc are 13, it is absolutely against the law for an adult show them pornography.

Showing children pornography is part of the child sex abuse spectrum.

Your children can be placed on the at risk register if you do this to them.

I can't imagine any non abusing parent being ok with this.

This shouldn't be accepted and isn't part of a healthy debate culture.
It is sexually abusive behavior that no adult and certainly no child should have to accept.

(JKR is fantastic)

RedDogsBeg · 19/07/2021 14:27

@Helleofabore

I think when people start talking about pipe bombs in mailboxes… I think we know that all those ‘look who you’re aligned with’ arguments will simply die away, yes???

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1417031300498829315?s=21

Everyone saying she ‘supported porn being posted’… you are ok with this tweet right?

The so-called right side of history:

Wanting a woman to receive a pipe bomb through her letterbox
Putting images of porn on a woman's twitter timeline knowing full well that timeline was hosting artwork from children
Sending unsolicited images of porn to a woman in order to distress and threaten her
Sending death threats to a woman
Sending rape threats to a woman
Sending threats of violence to a woman, including sexual violence
Doxxing women
Threatening employers of women and agitating for women to be fired
Urinating on the office door of a woman
Threatening women attending meetings
Violence, threats and abuse of trafficked women

You chose that side this is what you are supporting and condoning.

anon12345678901 · 19/07/2021 14:31

[quote littlbrowndog]In the mail now

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9802029/JK-Rowling-calls-troll-tweeted-death-threat-her.html[/quote]
Notice how the coward (I mean troll) protected their profile... pathetic piece of work.

AlfonsoTheMango · 19/07/2021 14:34

It was either in this thread or another (can't recall; sorry) a poster scolding GC posters for having Frances Barber as an "ally" and telling us that we need better allies.

Well, whoever it was - the person who made a pipebomb threat is an ally of yours. Something to think about, eh?

thirdfiddle · 19/07/2021 14:58

JKR really gives us a masterclass in social media use. She has that rare ability to step away, and every time she comes back stronger.

littlbrowndog · 19/07/2021 15:22

From Joanna cherry. Wonder who she means 🤔

JKR takes on the victim blamers over the pornography tweeted at children
allmywhat · 19/07/2021 15:40

If there’s any positive takeaway from Rowling’s latest dogpiling, it’s that those she targets get to show us what actual bravery and perseverance look like. The young trans man she retweeted has been keenly engaged in the ongoing conversation and now has in his bio, “the man the myth the legend behind THAT jkr tweet.”

oh my god, that is hilarious. I was torn between disgust and amusement the whole way through but I then I got to this bit and actually squeaked with laughter.

ACTUAL BRAVERY AND PERSEVERANCE. I guess they've moved on to the rest of the dictionary with self-ID now? A brave person is a person who praises their own bravery in a Twitter bio. A perseverant person is anyone who identifies as perseve...whatever.

Actual. bravery. And perseverance! Help me, it's too hot to laugh this hard.

TheSlayer · 19/07/2021 16:00

I think 90% of them just want the claim to fame that they rattles JK.
But she's unrattleable.
As previously mentioned, her opponents keep turning up fora battle of wits unarmed.

If I were her I'd just start responding '10 points from Slytherin' each time. Her self control to not entertain their nonsense is much higher than mine.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 19/07/2021 16:10

@RaindropsOnRosie

She should have her devices taken off her so she doesn't keep posting on Twitter.
What about people who tweet porn at a children's author, on a site with an official minimum age threshold of 13?

Do they get to keep their devices?

Tesla73 · 19/07/2021 16:13

Glinner 100% correct here - celebs love virtue signalling and being woke but their silence on this is deplorable

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/where-is-everyone?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copy

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/07/2021 16:19

190 comments on that article. I just skimmed through the first couple of dozen or so, every single one supportive of JKR.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/07/2021 16:23

(theMSN one)

Novelusername · 19/07/2021 16:36

MSN?! Fucking hell, I really hope she sees that, she has to sue!

TheSlayer · 19/07/2021 16:59

I'm really upset to see all those death threats. We underestimate the mental toll this will have on her. She's probably got good security, but there have been nutters who have killed or attempted to kill celebrities before and they were generally lone wolves. This is a whole army of violent thugs.
To be honest, even if she said something utterly, utterly unforgivable, instead of perfectly reasonable 'sex is real and has consequences', death threats are never, ever ok and the world's media should be pulling alongside to show it's not ok to use identity politics to threaten people.
That she's been perfectly civil and empathic just makes it all the more awful it's been allowed to happen.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 19/07/2021 17:24

Glinner, as usual, nails it. Where are the voices?

As a Scot (you will note I am no longer a proud Scot) I wonder how the hate bill would deal with this.

I can’t begin to imagine how JKR feels.

I feel sickened.

So Nicola. As the proud feminist that you state you are, how do you feel? This principled man is speaking up loud and hard for someone who is being persecuted for caring about the rights of women and children.

And you, well, stay silent. Again.

Death threats. Pipe bomb threats. Rape threats.

And you are silent.

Feminist? Are ye aye?

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 19/07/2021 17:25

[quote Tesla73]Glinner 100% correct here - celebs love virtue signalling and being woke but their silence on this is deplorable

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/where-is-everyone?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copy[/quote]
Seeing Dataracer's collection of the threats made about JKR…speechless doesn't cover it.

What are those people thinking? In what world are we all living under this secular set of rules that binds the behaviour of women in this way and that has abandoned any pretence of social and civic discourse?

Just what would it take for the celebrities Glinner mentions to condemn those comments? Even if they mealy-mouthed or vitiated it with multiple caveats?

Or, do they know with a racing certainty, that if people can threaten JKR with this sense of impunity, their own relative lack of comparable celebrity would strand them nowhere?

Would they sooner live with the ignominity of knowing how they'd failed JKR, and a test of their character that is leading us to something that inexorably leans in to aspects of totalitarianism and a restriction of the freedom of belief and thought than take a stand on any aspect of this?

People like Robin Ince, Daragh O'Briain, Josie Long, Brian Cox, Jon Ronson - keep silent if they must but they should never again voice their self-identified credentials on the principles of science, reason, fairness, rationality or skepticism. Especially when the men aren't subject to anything like the same sanctions as women for speaking up. (I acknowledge that Andy Lewis has a rough time and most of the skeptic community has abandoned him but I don't think he experiences as many threats of violence as women nor has he been deplatformed. He is still treated in a wretched manner and with no consideration for his considerable contributions to rationality and many important initiatives.) Look at the soft handling that Tom Chivers got for a tiptoe around the issue that had seen Gia Mililovich reviled.

At the very least, where is their sense that they should be defending the principle of discussion in the public arena and standing up for freedom of thought?

yourhairiswinterfire · 19/07/2021 17:33

@Novelusername

MSN?! Fucking hell, I really hope she sees that, she has to sue!
The original is from The Mary Sue (never heard of them before.)

twitter.com/TheMarySue/status/1417132116324671493

I hope she takes action too.

Waitwhat23 · 19/07/2021 17:38

@SheldonesqueTheBstard as a fellow Scot, I couldn't agree more. I have absolutely lost faith in this country.

There should be a bill board with a picture of Nicola and a quote of your words -

Death threats. Pipe bomb threats. Rape threats.

And you are silent.

Feminist? Are ye aye?

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 19/07/2021 17:39

The original is from The Mary Sue (never heard of them before.)

US commenters who are hoping to attract attention - the site is a reflection of a fanfiction phenomenon which should be a source of embarrassment all round to an audience of 'geek girls'. For once I agree with a wikipedia entry (on the adolescent point):

A Mary Sue is a type of fictional character, usually a young woman, who is portrayed as unrealistically free of weaknesses.[1] Originating in fan fiction, a Mary Sue is often an author's idealized self-insertion. Mary Sue stories are often written by adolescent authors.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue

Rhannion · 19/07/2021 17:49

@RaindropsOnRosie

She should have her devices taken off her so she doesn't keep posting on Twitter.
🙄 seriously are you that daft? Her Twitter thread only had disgusting images on it because disgusting people thought it would be fun to post it on a thread meant for children to share their pictures for her new book. Give your head a wobble hen.
ScreamingMeMe · 19/07/2021 17:54

Archived the tweet and article from The Mary Sue. Absolutely outrageous. I hope she Mary Sues them.

twitter.com/TheMarySue/status/1417132116324671493?s=20

www.themarysue.com/jk-rowling-transphobic-twitter-troll/amp/?utm_source=mostpopular&__twitter_impression=true

TalkingOutYerArse · 19/07/2021 17:56

@allmywhat

If there’s any positive takeaway from Rowling’s latest dogpiling, it’s that those she targets get to show us what actual bravery and perseverance look like. The young trans man she retweeted has been keenly engaged in the ongoing conversation and now has in his bio, “the man the myth the legend behind THAT jkr tweet.”

oh my god, that is hilarious. I was torn between disgust and amusement the whole way through but I then I got to this bit and actually squeaked with laughter.

ACTUAL BRAVERY AND PERSEVERANCE. I guess they've moved on to the rest of the dictionary with self-ID now? A brave person is a person who praises their own bravery in a Twitter bio. A perseverant person is anyone who identifies as perseve...whatever.

Actual. bravery. And perseverance! Help me, it's too hot to laugh this hard.

Haha! Yes. My thoughts too.
EmbarrassingAdmissions · 19/07/2021 18:03

Well, whoever it was - the person who made a pipebomb threat is an ally of yours.

Words are literal violence - unless they contain an actual mention of violence, in which case they are to be interpreted as a jolly jape or understandable exuberance of expression in a hyper-polarised social media environment.