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Scotttish Hate Crime Bill - part 3

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 16:07

From For women Scotland's tweets:

twitter.com/ForwomenScot

And we're off!

Characteristic of sex

@JohannLamont
is up

@JohannLamont
says some will agree with her and some disagree but what she will say is not hateful.

She calls out @patrickharvie
for his male entitlement in ascribing to her a motive of transphobia.

Says more about his lack of self-awareness than how we make good law.

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malloo · 10/03/2021 19:36

This is really depressing

ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 19:36

I have no twitter, sorry. Well done women on getting it trending.

Yes, I am thoroughly depressed. And angry.

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Blurberoo · 10/03/2021 19:46

I left Twitter because of the constant aggression. I can’t believe this utter bullshit is going through. The SNP appear to be suicidal. Unbelievable

PandorasMailbox · 10/03/2021 19:46

Solidarity from England. I've been following this and am utterly horrified and appalled at what's happening.

The vultures are circling already.

Scotttish Hate Crime Bill - part 3
Ifyourefeelingsinister · 10/03/2021 19:49

So depressing, absolute fuckers. What happens now? Is that it?

ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 19:56

As I understand it they still have some more to discuss, but I think the key amendments have been voted on, and every single one left women worse off. And I believe there is the possibility of voting the whole Bill down, but it seems most MSPs are supporting it.

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 19:58

Jim Sillars, former Deputy Leader of the SNP, on the Hate Crime Bill:

“I regard this as one of the most pernicious and dangerous pieces of legislation ever produced by any government in modern times in any part of the United Kingdom.”

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 19:59

Lamont pulling Harvie up on his nonsense about far -right funding.

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:00

Lamont now discussing definition of 'sex'.

Non-binary is a transgender identity

sex and gender identity must not be confused

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:01

Hoping to hear the offical understanding of sex is male and female

John Finnie here to tell us about clownfish

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:05

Equality network and stonewall scotland have advised Humza so that's who he's listening to

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:05

Lamont says

non-binary is a transgender identity not a sex

if sex is to be redefined then the debate has to be had and voted on

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:06

'we are creating the impression there are more than two sexes'

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TheHamsterCatcher · 10/03/2021 20:13

HOW THE FUCK can the scottish parliament not agree that there are two sexes.

ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:14

Lamont amendment to remove 'crossdressers' from the bill

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:16

God love you, Johann. Thank you for arguing all these points. Nobody in the parliament except the women seems to give a fuck, though.

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OvaHere · 10/03/2021 20:16

This is so horrifying I can hardly bear to follow the thread. Whoever said they can't win the argument so they're making the argument a crime was spot on.

Utterly totalitarian and chilling.

ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:17

Equality Network has added examples of a man dressing up for the Rocky Horror Show and someone dressing as a woman for 'emotional need' as people who need protection (occasional cross dressers) in the bill.

Bearing in mind women are not protected.

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ChonkyChook · 10/03/2021 20:17

@TheHamsterCatcher

HOW THE FUCK can the scottish parliament not agree that there are two sexes.
Because to admit that benefits women. On a day where the disappearance of a woman ( god bless her - they say it's murder ) has women speaking out about safety and the victim blaming they receive when attacked - SNP does this. So crass.
ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:18

I'm feeling the same, Ova.

John Finnie now on behalf of the cross dressers.

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:18

'if one person is made vulnerable there is one person too many'

  • so long as it's not a woman, cause they're not a person, eh?
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greatpurplepolkadots · 10/03/2021 20:19

@ArabellaScott

'if one person is made vulnerable there is one person too many'
  • so long as it's not a woman, cause they're not a person, eh?
This
ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:20

Neil Bibby now also keen to ensure cross dressers are protected. Important to ensure we do not leave any loopholes in this legislation

what are women, one great loophole?

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:21

On a day where the disappearance of a woman ( god bless her - they say it's murder ) has women speaking out about safety and the victim blaming they receive when attacked - SNP does this. So crass.

And by a serving policeman, has been noted.

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ArabellaScott · 10/03/2021 20:22

Elaine Smith asking why cross dressers are included, women are not included

if someone says 'I didn't know they were a cross dresser, I thought they were a woman', are they protected?

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