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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Staniland Question is so good. Can we think of others?

511 replies

aliasundercover · 17/02/2021 11:10

The Staniland question:
Do you believe that male-sexed people have the right to undress and shower in a communal changing room with teenage girls?
is so clever. The fact that so many people refuse to engage with it - let alone answer it - means it's a quick, powerful, way of showing how ridiculous the TWAW position is.

Can we think of any others that would be as effective? Maybe we could come up with 5 or so really sharp questions that TRAs could refuse to answer. My first thoughts are something along the lines of:
Why is it racist to identify as another race but stunning and brave to identify as another sex?
I'm sure somebody can word that better.

So any suggestions? The questions need to be short and clear.

OP posts:
jj1968 · 17/02/2021 12:44

Should a 10 year old trans girl, who in every way looks like a girl, be forced to use spaces where men have their penis exposed?

jj1968 · 17/02/2021 12:46

Should a masculine appearing woman have to prove what sex she was born before she can enter women's toilets and changing rooms?

Redshoeblueshoe · 17/02/2021 12:47

Or jj should that 10 year old be allowed to expose their penis to a 4 year old ?

Highwind · 17/02/2021 12:47

@jj1968

Should a 10 year old trans girl, who in every way looks like a girl, be forced to use spaces where men have their penis exposed?
Yes, because that child is a male child. Regardless how effeminate he tries to look.

Males in with the males.
Females in with the females.

Black and white, easy-peasy.

jj1968 · 17/02/2021 12:48

Should shop assistants, security guards and changing room attendants be required to establish what genitals people had at birth before they can be permitted access to toilets and changing rooms?

And how would they do this?

I like this game.

jj1968 · 17/02/2021 12:48

@Redshoeblueshoe

Or jj should that 10 year old be allowed to expose their penis to a 4 year old ?
Pretty sure women's toilets don't have urinals.
Redshoeblueshoe · 17/02/2021 12:49

Do you believe that Eddie Izzard is a woman ?

MildredPuppy · 17/02/2021 12:50

Should transmen be able to benefit from primogeniture?
Should a transwomen recieve blood transfusion from a woman who has had a pregnancy?
Should sport have sex categories?

Redshoeblueshoe · 17/02/2021 12:50

Exactly jj so it would be a 4 year old girl, who is in the girls toilets

StellaAndCrow · 17/02/2021 12:51

@malloo

Should women ever have the right to say no to men?
I think that's the underlying question! Plus, should women ever be allowed to discuss things without the presence of a male?
Floisme · 17/02/2021 12:51

I like this game
What an interesting and revealing choice of wording.

jj1968 · 17/02/2021 12:53

@Redshoeblueshoe

Exactly jj so it would be a 4 year old girl, who is in the girls toilets
I think anyone who exposed their genitals to a 4 year old in public toilets is a concern to be honest.
vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/02/2021 12:55

malloo Wed 17-Feb-21 12:36:33
Should women ever have the right to say no to men?

Malloo has it.

JJ - do I have the right to say "no" to seeing a male penis?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/02/2021 12:55

Actually, or a female penis. I don't want to see them either.

Am I allowed to say "no" to any penis, regardless of how the person it is attached to feels about their penis?

jj1968 · 17/02/2021 12:56

Plus, should women ever be allowed to discuss things without the presence of a male?

Should gender critical women ignore the spaces where they can do just that in favour of hijacking the world's largest parenting forum and creating a hostile environment for many parents?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/02/2021 12:58

JJ, MN isn't a single sex space.

All are welcome here. It's not the same as, for instance, a prison.

CranberriesChoccyAgain · 17/02/2021 12:58

Can a woman identity as a transwoman and be part of a trans advisory panel to discuss trans rights?

aliasundercover · 17/02/2021 13:00

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PygmyHippoBob · 17/02/2021 13:04

@talesofginza

"If we ended up with a Parliament which was half men and half transwomen*, would we have achieved parity in political representation between men and women?"

*adapting noun as preferred.

This wins it for me. IIRC it was a Lib Dem at a Fawcett event who said 50% men 50% transwomen would be fine. Jawdropping!
Cloudyz7 · 17/02/2021 13:05

In what circumstances is gender identity important?

In what circumstances is biological sex important?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/02/2021 13:09

Do some cultures remove the clitorises of some children because of their sex or gender?

oldwomanwhoruns · 17/02/2021 13:09

Should men be allowed to hijack the word 'Woman', declare themselves to be 'women', and so, at one bound, deprive females of every sex-based protection that society and the law used to give them?

...I think that that just about nails it Grin

TinselAngel · 17/02/2021 13:11

Who has more to offer to feminist gender critical discourse, a trans widow or her ex husband?

JaninaDuszejko · 17/02/2021 13:13

@jj1968

Should a 10 year old trans girl, who in every way looks like a girl, be forced to use spaces where men have their penis exposed?
A 10 year old child with a penis? I think they'll cope.
Flapjak · 17/02/2021 13:23

If a man is following close behind you when you are walking home from the pub at night, do you start speed up , get out your keys, look for an escape, or not worry as he could identify as female and therefore wouldnt be likely to rape or murder you