Suzanne Moore - naming and shaming

[Haworthia]

Suzanne Moore is naming and shaming her Guardian colleagues/friends who signed the letter condemning her column. She’s obviously feeling completely betrayed but I’m worried this is going to backfire for her. Tell you what - massive balls though.

[R0wantrees]

December 2019 Mail:

'Transgender player vents fury after being dropped from Australia's women's handball team 'because teammates didn't want to get changed and shower with her'
(extract)
"Transgender athlete Hannah Mouncey claims the Australian women's handball team has left her out of the world championships team because her teammates are refusing to share a change room with her.

The international competition will be held in Japan this month, but Mouncey wasn't selected to compete.

In an explosive post in the Star Observer this month, Mouncey said she refused a management request to use a separate changeroom because female teammates felt uncomfortable with her presence

'I was left out of the team for the World Championships because there was a group of players within the team, supported by the team manager, who did not want me showering or using the change rooms before or after the game,' she wrote. (continues)
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7811843/Transgender-AFL-player-vents-fury-kicked-Australias-womens-handball-team.html

Telling isnt it?

[R0wantrees]

Mouncey is a prized drongo to write this trope.

My contempt is for the Guardian to publish & presumably pay for it.

[Winesalot]

Telling indeed. As I said, has to be a prized drongo to think it doesn’t spread sunlight. Well done!

[Winesalot]

I agree.

I am just as angered that they feel that it is appropriate to not publish the viewpoints, or to encourage a culture that then bullies writers with public outcry, that reasonably question these.

[Winesalot]

with these viewpoints (ie Suzanne Moore) that should read.

[R0wantrees]

Its a shame that Australian sporting bodies & media didnt say a clearer 'no!' to Mouncey sooner.

2017 FWR thread OP pisacake wrote:
"Hannah Mouncey wants to join the Australian Football League (this is basically rugby) Women's division.
"Mouncey played the final three games in the ruck for Ainslie and kicked 15 goals, with Canberra officials ruling she was not a safety concern."

this despite the fact
"one [female] player broke her leg in a tangle of legs with Mouncey."

Mouncey says:
“I am female like 50 per cent of the population. I may have been born a bit different but there was a real sense of normality when I transitioned,” she said.

The average MALE AFL player is 188cm and 88kg, so Hannah is both taller and heavier, and if admitted will both the tallest and heaviest player in the entire league.

Hannah was previously on the Australian MALE Olympic handball team.... (continues)"


www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3059263-190cm-100kg-size-15-feet-transwoman-tries-to-join-womens-Aussie-Rules-football

[Winesalot]

Totally agree. The fact that the male body also has the musculature for those flying ball intercepts that women don’t have is also overlooked. And obviously that is just one advantage they have ...

Hopefully something usable will come out of the rugby decision that can be utilized for all codes of footy and any contact sport.

[ListeningQuietly]

I watched Life of Brian last night.
I'd forgotten how spot on the "Inalienable Rights" scene is, even now

[Lordfrontpaw]

From now on I want you all to call me Loretta.

[LadyQuarantinaPluckington]

I may have a Life of Brian themed alternate name I wheel out occasionally...