ROGD Parent Support

[iamright17]

This is a new thread for parents who are experiencing the phenomenon of Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria in their tweens/ teens/ young adults.

Sadly we are being watched and our words taken out of context so please be careful what you say.

I want the UK and beyond to listen to parents. Even if it is deemed as anecdotal for now, it is important for someone to acknowledge our perspective. The trans narrative is trying to undermine our credibility.

There is a question from a primary school teacher on the video in the following thread that might be of interest to ROGD parents.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3750528-Refreshing-insightful-discussion-Unwoke-Douglas-Murray-and-Titania-McGrath?watched=1&msgid=91891557#91891557

In other news, DsD has admitted that ‘this might be a phase, although it doesn’t feel like a phase’ so that’s good. Sadly her one and only social media account has a nickname referencing gender confusion.
We’re trying to keep it all low key and non combative as possible, while delaying all requests, not affirming, not refusing (ie ‘let’s decide about this request next summer, let me learn more about why/how in the meantime’)

This follows the advice given online by Lisa Marchiano and Sasha Ayad online. Wish we could access a similar therapist locally.

Hi all,
Sorry to intrude on your thread but it's just to say that we've deleted some obviously inflammatory posts from last night and have banned the poster as per our guidelines.
Many thanks for not rising but reporting, thus allowing us to deal with the situation at face value. Your co-operation in sticking to our most ancient guidelines is very much appreciated.

Thank you Hope. Much appreciated.

Thanks Hope

A new website and forum for parents of gender questioning kids who are wary of the affirmative approach. I know one of the women involved and so can vouch for it.

www.bayswatersupport.org.uk/

Hope it's of interest.

Thanks LangCleg

Which is the way forward? Although not a parent, I've been talking with a friend who is a parent and a teacher of children, who is desperately worried about what they might be going to be expected to uphold, teach and do when faced with a child with ROGD.

He was trying to work his way through how to respond:

Allowing and enabling a troubled mind to take a path that will ultimately damage a perfectly healthy body with surgery & drugs?

Or helping a troubled mind to heal and reconcile with the reality of the whole healthy body?

We agreed the second is the obvious route - yet we've seen it condemned as "conversion therapy". He can't discuss it at work.

Get him to look at Transgender Trends work.

www.transgendertrend.com/schools-resources/

Thankyou Iamright17!

After the Maya Forstata case, I'm really struggling to come to terms with the idea that my view of my relatives gender identity (that I don't share, as I still consciously and completely see them as their born sex, not a vague "they" sex) will lead to me being fired, or worse.

I wonder if a judge would tell parents and family members of trans people that they have to deny reality? I will never deny that I give birth to a male. That completely invalidates me as a mother if I had to lie that I give birth to a daughter. Where does the madness end?
I am not going to let this judgement against Maya stop me from speaking my truth.

And if my work wants to fire me for not denying my child’s biology I would gladly walk before they even got the chance to fire me.

How come autistic kids can’t access
Support
Therapy
Treatment for mental health - anxiety/depression/ocd

But can access help for ROGD?

It doesn’t make sense. Why does ROGD get priority over all the others?

And when I say help I don’t mean help. Because affirmation only is not help.

But can access help for ROGD?

The only way to access actual help for kids with ROGD is to go private and pay a fortune. They are not getting help on the NHS/Medicare/public systems.

All young people, including young people with autism, should be able to access appropriate, evidence based mental health care and support. Most of them aren't, including kids with autism, including kids with ROGD, including kids with both.

Qcng

I understand. I feel the same way. Have always refused to be forced to lie about the reality of my children's sex.

I am grateful my kids are adult or almost adult; I would be quite scared right now if my GD kid was younger. I think my position could result in removal in the future.

It's not OK to gaslight parents and other relatives.

It really looks possible now, more than ever that reluctance or sceptisism to accept your child's proclaimed gender, could lead to social services removing you child.
It's becoming completely totalitarian and very scary.

A new website and forum for parents of gender questioning kids who are wary of the affirmative approach. I know one of the women involved and so can vouch for it.

How ridiculous is it that I'm currently wondering if I can pass this link on anonymously to a father I know.

I'm friends with the mother who is affirming the NB male-presenting ID of the ROGD child. The father is opposed to this and wants to adopt watchful waiting: in the interim he is traumatised.

All of the mother's friends are supporting her and the ROGD child in affirmation. I'm not but will be in all sorts of friendship-losing trouble if anyone asks me directly because I can't dissemble or lie my way out of endorsing any move towards medical harm.

Tricky one for you. If my husband disagreed with me and was affirmative, I think it would cause irreparable damage to our relationship. The father also needs support but if his wife knows you recommended something to him it could create more conflict and you could be blamed. It is difficult to know what to do but I know I would want someone to reach out to me so I don’t feel so alone in my devastation. When I was first dealing with this I searched the internet for like minded parents. Hopefully he will do the same.

Not Mermaids though!!!!

Arran

If Dad is trying to slow things down and hold the line re watchful waiting, he is likely to be quite isolated in the context you describe.

I would pass on the details quietly, if you think he can be trusted not to 'out' you. Gender Critical Dad's blog might be helpful for him, too.

It's incredibly isolating when everyone else is rah-rah.

gendercriticaldad.blogspot.com/

I would pass on the details quietly, if you think he can be trusted not to 'out' you. Gender Critical Dad's blog might be helpful for him, too.

My friend was unwell and is increasingly so despite the brave face that she is putting on (unless I'm badly misreading the situation). She does, however, have the support of many people.

The husband seems to very stressed and isolated and this is straining the marital relationship. I don't know if I could trust him not to out me or if I will need to wait and see if he talks to me and I can pass on these links in as neutral a capacity as I can. Thanks for the pointer towards GC Dad's blog.

Perhaps being one of the few 'neutral' people will lead him to seek you out.

Poor guy.

My kids' dad is thankfully (in this instance) non-woke, and follows my cue on all things to do with parenting. It would be incredibly difficult to stay with someone who wanted to trans my kids.

Gender critical dad is great overcome across him before