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Female candidate posts meme threatening Joanna Cherry with bleach.

187 replies

BeMoreMagdalen · 01/11/2019 15:13

I didn't think it was possible for political discourse to get more divisive and extreme in a civilized society, but Frances Carmel Hoole, who apparently standing for election, tweeted a meme of herself threatening Joanna Cherry with a spray bottle of bleach and the term T*RF.

She has deleted it and is now complaining about the sound condemnation she is receiving on Twitter. I need to get a hammock for my face to help with the continual dropping of my jaw.

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BadgertheBodger · 02/11/2019 11:50

What the fuck is wrong with these people? It makes me despair sometimes. The lack of empathy and critical thinking, the nasty tribal behaviour, the complete acceptance that if you’d not think like them you’re obviously disgusting and deserve to die/be sprayed in the face by bleach/be beaten to death/insert any other revolting threat we’ve seen from this type of person.

There are too many people, mostly men but yes some women, who are internalising this sort of hate ready to spew out at the next person who disagrees with them. Something needs to change.

PeterRouseTheFleshofMankind · 02/11/2019 12:13

The lack of empathy and critical thinking, the nasty tribal behaviour, the complete acceptance that if you’d not think like them you’re obviously disgusting and deserve to die/be sprayed in the face by bleach/be beaten to death/insert any other revolting threat we’ve seen from this type of person.

This. Its why Labour, who should be absolutely walking the upcoming election, are struggling even in the face of the Tories. It's just all so nasty.

IsadoraQuagmire · 02/11/2019 12:25

Yuck, he doesn't have many followers (not surprised) but I'm irritated that 5 of them also follow meSad

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 02/11/2019 12:28

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

They are totalitarians. They do not believe in democracy. They do not believe in freedom of speech. They do not believe in a pluralistic society. They are the latest iteration of Stalinists, of McArthyites, of Puritans.

And a good chunk of them are too stupid to even recognise it.

LangCleg · 02/11/2019 12:29

Hey, I made the meme. It's obviously not a threat, and was referencing a popular advert. Anyone claiming otherwise is being deliberately obtuse purely to further their own toxic ideology.

Same applies to you, dear. Hate crime is judged in the eye of the beholder. If Joanna Cherry perceives your meme as a homophobic hate incident then it is a homophobic hate incident and the police will investigate and record it as such. Not because I say so but because your stupid lobby groups have persuaded the police and CPS to adopt this position.

So if you don't want your collar felt by Woke Plod, I suggest you too might like to contribute to the Fair Cop judicial review costs.

Ereshkigal · 02/11/2019 12:36

And a good chunk of them are too stupid to even recognise it.

This is a huge part of the problem.

merrymouse · 02/11/2019 12:37

Hey, I made the meme. It's obviously not a threat, and was referencing a popular advert.

It was offensive when Boris Johnson was trying to defend his use of inflammatory language and minimise the concerns of female MPs, but this is worse.

Do Scottish Labour want to maintain a presence in Scotland or have they given up?

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 02/11/2019 12:42

And a good chunk of them are too stupid to even recognise it.

You can thank the poor education system for that.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 02/11/2019 12:46

Do Scottish Labour want to maintain a presence in Scotland or have they given up?

They gave up long ago.

HermioneWeasley · 02/11/2019 12:46

It’s the fact at Labour haven’t censored her or anything. They really don’t give a shit about women

zebrasdontwearbras · 02/11/2019 13:03

I think he's just an old style men's rights activist who has found a convenient way to abuse women who dare to disagree with him.

Any man who goes around shouting 'terf' at women is a misogynist, one who makes up violent and threatening memes to send to women is a violent misogynist.

MockersthefeMANist · 02/11/2019 13:04

"What's the matter, can't you take a joke?" is the refrain of the racist down the ages.

(See J Clarkson's hilarious "There's a slope on that bridge" comment.)

zebrasdontwearbras · 02/11/2019 13:05

And Ian, just so you know, doing charitable fun runs doesn't get you off the hook either. See: David Challenor.

zebrasdontwearbras · 02/11/2019 13:09

"Terf" - this is what men mean when they call us "terf". Just violence against women and as old as the hills.

Oakmaiden · 02/11/2019 13:25

“The conclusion has been that he was an idiot, not a terrorist.”
An ideal candidate for political office, then.

Onceafrog · 02/11/2019 13:37

I live there. I look forward to giving Joanna Cherry my support if I see her out campaigning. I probably wouldn't bother trying to engage with Hoole in case she sprayed me with something (metaphorically and hilariously speaking, of course).

motorcyclenumptiness · 02/11/2019 14:02

Why are all these "woke" people so intolerant?!
That made me think of this Titania McGrath tweet:
Be sure to put your pronouns in your bio.
That way, when you’re calling your opponents evil lowlife scumbags, trying to get them fired, or gloating if they die, everyone will know that you’re actually incredibly compassionate.

Siameasy · 02/11/2019 20:49

What a saddo that penguin bloke is. Looks like a total embarrassment.

I remember in the 90s whilst living in Lewisham I became very aware of left wing politics and was impressed with how nice lefties were etc etc (ok was very young and naive) but now I just see anger, aggression, intolerance “the fascist left”..totalitarianism.

When I used to comment a lot on FB about GC topics I got a fair bit of abuse. I’d always study the profiles of the abusive people. 95% were female and 100% were lefties.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 02/11/2019 21:49

I think he thinks there's no such thing as bad publicity.

He's very wrong. That meme has done a lot of damage to this candidate, to the LP and to the TRA cause.

AND it's shite.

Goosefoot · 02/11/2019 23:19

There are too many people, mostly men but yes some women, who are internalising this sort of hate ready to spew out at the next person who disagrees with them.

I am sorry to say that I have not seen this to be the case. My sense is that the woke and thought police are as least as likely to be women.

Ereshkigal · 03/11/2019 09:19

I think he thinks there's no such thing as bad publicity.

If he does, he's very wrong:

https://twitter.com/bunifoosh/status/1190771525735067648?s=21

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 03/11/2019 09:58

Ah I love it when we get to have that discussion about what 'petard' really means in French...

Ereshkigal · 03/11/2019 10:17

Textbook really, isn't it?

Female candidate posts meme threatening Joanna Cherry with bleach.
Karabair · 03/11/2019 10:32

Those tweets are horrifying. Something very, very wrong with that person.

terfsandwich · 03/11/2019 10:35

He's really bad at photoshopping! How embarrassing.