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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Female candidate posts meme threatening Joanna Cherry with bleach.

187 replies

BeMoreMagdalen · 01/11/2019 15:13

I didn't think it was possible for political discourse to get more divisive and extreme in a civilized society, but Frances Carmel Hoole, who apparently standing for election, tweeted a meme of herself threatening Joanna Cherry with a spray bottle of bleach and the term T*RF.

She has deleted it and is now complaining about the sound condemnation she is receiving on Twitter. I need to get a hammock for my face to help with the continual dropping of my jaw.

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GCAcademic · 01/11/2019 19:52

It's worrying that this woman is a care worker. She should be kept away from vulnerable people who will need and request single-sex provision if her default reaction to politicians who defend the principle of sex-based rights is to threaten violence.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 01/11/2019 19:53

real world people and politics are much less forgiving

That's not true though is it, it may have been, at some point many years ago, but now what you are seeing happen here IS real world politics.

StrangeLookingParasite · 01/11/2019 19:55

Jesus wept, what an oxygen thief.

BeMoreMagdalen · 01/11/2019 20:01

Captain, I think I meant you get away with a lot in the little woke Twitter bubble that you wouldn't away with once it hits mainstream news outlets, and people start talking.

Look at the M&S thing. Sometimes it's surprising what breaks out, and you can't reliably predict which thing it will be. I've talked to actual every day people today who think being kind is important, but they don't feel remotely obligated to pretend they're ok with mixed sex masquerading as single sex for example.

And yes, this particular incident is a bit niche, because the T*rf insult isn't common currency outside Twitter, but once it's clearly explained as 'Labour candidate shares image of herself spraying bleach at female politician' then I guarantee you the people I chat with in shops and on buses would have a very clear opinion.

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Ereshkigal · 01/11/2019 20:27

Think I can preempt the answer. I will never understand how some misogynistic women have unquestioningly internalized the language and values of patriarchy; much less why they would like to foist them on the rest of us. My response to the lot of them is to ram it.

And mine.

CarolCutrere · 01/11/2019 20:35

Can the Labour Party get any more stupid?

The only hope for it is a Boris landslide which will make them see sense and look for a new Blair.

kesstrel · 01/11/2019 20:42

Would I be right in thinking that it has been the local constituency party that selects these candidates? Does anyone know? If yes, that would explain it, I suppose, since they seem to mainly be filled with Momentum activists now.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 01/11/2019 21:36

Frances Carmel Hoole has protected her Tweets. She's also deleted her Tweet protesting about the "pile on".

ScrimshawTheSecond · 01/11/2019 21:56

Labour in Scotland are a funny thing. I suspect it's a very different party than it is in other parts of the UK.

And of course she's protected her tweets. UUnable to handle all the perfectly polite, normal people questioning her horrible rhetoric, I expect.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 01/11/2019 22:07

Labour in Scotland seem to be making very weird decisions. Earlier this week candidate Alex Tiffin admitted twice assaulting a pregnant woman.

Link to the Press and Journal.

In 2017 the charming Alex, a Scots Muslim, drunkenly caused a terror scare. He ended up in court over texts sent to a member of his mosque days after the London Bridge attack.

However a police investigation established no links to terror groups. A spokesperson said: “The conclusion has been that he was an idiot, not a terrorist.”

So that's all right then...

Link to the Daily Record.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 01/11/2019 22:21

I think I meant you get away with a lot in the little woke Twitter bubble that you wouldn't away with once it hits mainstream news outlets, and people start talking.
And yes, this particular incident is a bit niche, because the Trf insult isn't common currency outside Twitter, but once it's clearly explained as 'Labour candidate shares image of herself spraying bleach at female politician' then I guarantee you the people I chat with in shops and on buses would have a very clear opinion.*

Public view of politicans and public opinion have no status on current politics. People can talk all they like, as long as the person in question is in-line with the ideas of the state they will remain in their positions of power.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 01/11/2019 22:24

The idea that you elect a representative to speak for your opinions is totally alien now. Public opinion is meaningless in politics, it's all about power and control.

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 01/11/2019 22:27

Even the illusion of speaking for the public and caring for the people isn't being used any more.

Coldwatershock · 01/11/2019 22:41

Great letter to the Jo Cox Foundation about Google. J think we should all follow suit

wingsoverscotland.com/a-letter-to-the-jo-cox-foundation/

Coldwatershock · 01/11/2019 22:41

Sorry the letter's about Hoole but darned spellchecker changed it sorry

Coldwatershock · 01/11/2019 22:45

Looks like the contact email is [email protected]

KatvonHostileExtremist · 01/11/2019 22:49

Stupid thing to do

BeMoreMagdalen · 01/11/2019 23:26

Cap, well, it's never not been about power and control. That hasn't changed and nor is it likely to.

But I'm a ridiculous jumble of misanthropic pessimistic cynicism and foolish optimism, so I will continue to punt for the good in the bulk of humanity to outweigh the viciously unthinking bad. It makes me fairly stressed, but I don't know how to be anything else.

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CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 01/11/2019 23:36

It makes me fairly stressed, but I don't know how to be anything else.

Someone has to be an optimist, if everyone constantly felt as I do the human race would have gone extinct years ago.

If you continue, others will do too, you are one of many and it's important to be one of many, because you are inspiring others.

motorcyclenumptiness · 02/11/2019 00:00

Labour's commitment to repelling the votes of more than half the population is as baffling as it is unwavering

Earlybed · 02/11/2019 00:19

Scottish Labour are the political equivalent of the Marie Celeste these days. The rise of the SNP and the complete refusal of ScotLab to countenance any notion of iScot have decimated it.

noodlenosefraggle · 02/11/2019 00:33

Would I be right in thinking that it has been the local constituency party that selects these candidates? Does anyone know? If yes, that would explain it, I suppose, since they seem to mainly be filled with Momentum activists now.
There have been issued with candidates being imposed from a central list of activists into cop's in some areas. Not sure about this case. But same result. Momentum running the party at every level.

noodlenosefraggle · 02/11/2019 00:34

issues

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 02/11/2019 06:14

This definitely looks like a Momentum candidate.

Lumene · 02/11/2019 06:15
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MP threatening another MP

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