Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this

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RM is busy trying to justify their support for a particularly unpleasant tweet yesterday. For those of you who are blocked, I'll add some grabs.

Given that tw like ol' Rachy here are so interested in loudly policing what genitals people are allowed to like, it seems a strangely risky strategy for the handmaidens to come on here and berate us for being "obsessed" with talking about them.

If I take someone to my bedroom "for relations" I can change my mind whenever I like and for whatever reason I like. Rapey twit
Quite.

Isn't RM apparently 'asexual'? 🤔

Wtf is this bull 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ When will it end! If ppl had sex with ppl and not b’cos of their “sexy fun time bits” (shudder) then there wouldn’t be gays or lesbians it’s absolutely mental and I tell you, any1 tried teaching this bollocks to my teenager they’ll be hell to pay

Thread includes the charming, “Go eat a dirty sock you bitch with a vagina fetish” tweet.

It must be truly grim to feel like you may be rejected because you dont fit someone's picture of 'the kind of people I fancy'.

And it's true that there is more to sex than biology; some of the hardest posts to read on the trans widows threads are the ones about sex, where changes of presentation have a real and horrible impact on desire. Though the relationship breakdowns still seem to be more about the widows being treated like crap than a change in clothing/presentation as such.

I think I would actually agree with rm that this genuinely is transphobia. The difference would be that I consider a lack of desire for particular categories of people to be something that people shouldn't try to force themselves to overcome. Why would RM want to have sex with someone who doesn't fancy trans people? Why would RM want sex with a lesbian (classical definition)? Civility, always, but why try to go on a personal conversion therapy crusade to force women who love women to suck dick? What could the reason possibly be?

"Date genders and learn to have fun with their sexyfuntime bits"

I am almost done with this rapey conversion therapy.
I knew I was a lesbian by my teens, but could not accept it (homophobic family/interternalised homophobia) so proceeded to try to make myself straight and have sex with guys.

I tried to have "fun with their sexyfuntime bits" many times.
It was always horrendous and left me with nothing more than feeling of having been abused and vulnerable and fucking miserable. Yet here is this fucking thinking that denying the rights of lesbians to say no is a fun game.
But I am the one in the wrong?
Fuck. This. Shit.

It must be truly grim to feel like you may be rejected because you dont fit someone's picture of 'the kind of people I fancy'.

Isn't all sexual rejection ultimately about not fitting others picture of 'the kind of people I fancy'?

Is Big Rach a lurker?

When has this scenario ever happened? They really think women are stupid enough to be duped in the first place?

Crikey. The world has gone mad. If I met a ‘guy’ then found out he had lady bits, I’d be running out that door faster than Mo Farah!
If that trans person had any respect for the person they were taking to the bedroom, they would not let it get that far without being honest.
I like men, with cocks and that is because I’m a straight female. I’m not transphobic. I just don’t want to date a trans man. It would feel very wrong to me and I couldn’t find it attractive in any way.

@TemporaryPermanent

Because the entitled Dr does not understand consent. The good Dr thinks making homophobic comments against lesbians like this is ok.
I guess the Dr is correct, no one with any influence is calling them out they can continue with the homophobia with no repercussions, yet misgender the good Dr and one would end up in all kind of shit.
These people have no idea how much damage they are doing. I can't live in a world like this for much longer.
I just want acceptance yet don't even get that from LGBT groups any more. What's the fucking point.

Surely it’s just if you allow the situation to proceed to the bedroom in this situation?

Oh well at least their hatred of women and lesbians is out there for the world to see.

It seems a case of shooting oneself in the foot to go round spewing hatred on the people one wants to have sex with.

Try again 🙄

Surely it’s just catfishing if you allow the ‘relationship’ to proceed to the bedroom in this situation?

I like men, with cocks and that is because I’m a straight female

Well quite, but when it comes to sexual attraction we are all allowed to be much pickier than our sexual orientation.

I'm a heterosexual woman too but that doesn't mean I'm attracted to all men. I'm free to reject short men, fat men, men under 40, men with blond hair, bisexual men, men with plummy accents, Chinese men, whatever group of men I damn well please.

If a girl has a funny looking vagina, I dont just stop dating her

What the fuck is a funny looking vagina when it's at home? . Sexist much?

And even if it was the weirdest looking vagina in the world, it's still not a penis.

It seems a case of shooting oneself in the foot to go round spewing hatred on the people one wants to have sex with

Well when all you are is validation shag they dont have to like you or even have you like them.

The ultimate conclusion of what people like this want is for people to cave in and have sex with them just to keep the peace.

I can't imagine ever finding that a pleasing or sensual event for the demander - "ooh yeah, why don't you fake how much you are enjoying this, we both know your stomach is turning as we do this, how sexy!". Even those people with massive egos that need validating - can't exactly be a turn on knowing that person who would rather be sticking pins in their eyes than laying one single finger on your body.

(Obviously it's near-rape for the acquiescer, which doesn't need describing on the grim scale.)

At least RM has been called out on these views by other TW, one of whom asked if there weren't really more important things to be focusing on.

"Sexy fun time bits" 🤮🤮

"one of whom asked if there weren't really more important things to be focusing on."

What could be more important than shaming lesbians into having sex with people they do not want to? Priorities. Priorities.

Bunch of rapey Incels.

Funny how the conversation is always about what kind of genitals women are expected to have sex with. I never see anyone pushing the argument that men who won’t have sex with ladydick are transphobic.

Also, anyone can refuse to sleep with any one for any reason at any time. Otherwise it’s rape.

And if Transwomen are lesbians, why don’t they just shag each other?

A "funny looking vagina" is still a female sex organ. Very different from a penis.
Also, when I think of "funny looking vaginas" I think comedy glasses with a moustache on them, being worn in that arwa... that is what McKinnon means, surely? Comedy vulva?