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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this

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Doyoumind · 30/09/2019 12:37

RM is busy trying to justify their support for a particularly unpleasant tweet yesterday. For those of you who are blocked, I'll add some grabs.

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 30/09/2019 17:08

Oh but they do. Lots. And at least two of them want to tell us how much.

Hardly a landslide given how many of them have jumped on the female-bashing threads.

It's almost as if they don't really, because they don't want lady dick either.

twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1178344544045154304

VenusTiger · 30/09/2019 17:10

Omfg can’t be doing with this and the “women” instead of “woman” that I see EVERYWHERE (even on here 🙈) is doing my head in!

Tetchy much Grin

justasking111 · 30/09/2019 17:19

We have fought so long to say no means no, to change our mind at any stage in the proceedings I cannot understand this.

TemporaryPermanent · 30/09/2019 17:22

Ooh yes, instant turn off moments...

'I could come over if you was free now' Grammarerrorophobia, vagina slammed shut...

'My hobby is painting miniature wargame figures' with picture... I really tried with this one because stupidhobbyophobia isn't reasonable, but it was also intractable...

Sliponshoeswithwhitesocksophobia... a real problem in 1986. I went ahead and had sex with him but couldn't 'make it work' sorry Rach. Except the idea that women should actually be panting with arousal before they have sex, not 'coping', is so alien to our culture that I thought my total lack of desire and pleasure was normal.

I'm sad, actually, for Rach that the idea of overwhelming sexual desire seems so alien to them too.

Waterandlemonjuice · 30/09/2019 17:26

FFS, bonkers

Michelleoftheresistance · 30/09/2019 17:28

Olives analogy: yes, exactly. And why this weird dressing up of the idea that you have some kind of social duty to override your feelings and like and eat olives properly, because it's a behavioural fault in you...

This just represents, yet again, how much of the ideology boils down to a need to control others. Their language, their perceptions, their behaviour, their bodies. This is seeing others as puppets, as inhuman props in ones' personal world, and is surrounded by careful language choices which dress it as acceptable and rational.

Who wants to have sex (note its sex. Never relationships, no emotion or connection involved here) with someone who gives not one fuck about how you feel or what you want or who you feel you are, and just wants you to shut up and force yourself to service them wholeheartedly?

Seriously, I'm increasingly thinking we need to organise a massive campaign aimed at teenaged girls, school packs, the lot, all about consent and what every female has a right to in their relationships and treatment by others.

Melroses · 30/09/2019 17:28

Ooh yes, instant turn off moments...

Not being drunk enough at the next meeting #awkward

Datun · 30/09/2019 17:30

It must be truly grim to feel like you may be rejected because you dont fit someone's picture of 'the kind of people I fancy'

Eh? Where do people get these daft ideas?

The people who don't fancy 'my kind of people' is every gay man, and every straight woman. I mean, that's loads 😊

Every single person, apart from those who say they are pangender, rejects entire cohorts, out of hand.

Still, there can't be anything quite more cringing than telling the whole of Twitter that the only way you can get a shag is by demanding that every single person should fancy every other person, irrespective - and hopefully, by sheer dint of astronomical numbers, you might get lucky.

Sherpa McKinnon - peaking the unpeakable.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/09/2019 17:37

So hang on - somewhere, maybe right now, there’s a person in a bedroom situation looking at a naked woman and demanding ‘where’s your penis??’

Sparkyduchess · 30/09/2019 17:38

Wow, big Rach has REALLY let the mask slip!

I didn’t think I could find McKinnon any more revolting, turns out I was wrong

ThatCurlyGirl · 30/09/2019 17:42

"Life's not fair"
"You don't date genitals you date people"

RM. I can only think you are deliberately trolling at this stage.

If generals aren't important and life isn't fair then why have I spent my life SUPPORTING people's rights to transition?! I've supported this right, for years!

I have also supported the rights of myself and other women to have full control over who we choose to have sex with.

You cannot have it both ways.

In your world, all the things you say have a common denominator - those of us born women (or the term you insist on using, loaded with vitriol, "cis women") do not get the final say on who we are comfortable sharing a bathroom, a relationship or a bed with. Ever.

You are fucking over all of my trans friends who are embarrassed you claim to speak for them all as they wouldn't dream of putting any woman or man in a situation in which they feel obliged to perform a sex act on anyone for fear of being called transphobic otherwise.

Shame on you.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/09/2019 17:44

‘You date people’. Well some people come across as so unpleasant they can only hope that some people go on genitals alone.

WrongKindOfFace · 30/09/2019 17:47

Oh FFS, anyone can turn down anyone for any reason. And that’s ok. Being forced to continue a sexual encounter is fucking rape or sexual assault.

I once dumped someone because I really didn’t like his name. /shallow

fantasmasgoria1 · 30/09/2019 17:51

If I had gone on a date with someone I had been told was a man and they had turned out to be a woman then I have the right to refuse to sleep with them. You are attracted to whoever you are attracted to end of. I probably havent explained it properly but this is absolutely ridiculous.

JellySlice · 30/09/2019 17:52

Yes, go away.

Not having sex with someone because they don't have the right genitals is transphobic. No prizes for guessing who's claiming this
LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/09/2019 17:52

Women's feelings don’t count. Anyone born and brought up a boy won’t always get that.

Makesmilingyourbesthobby · 30/09/2019 17:53

I haven't heard such nonsense in a long time, I'll sleep with who I am attracted too, date who I want too and say no when I want too, they kind of pot calling kettle black here, I have my sexual preference's and I'm not attracted to a vagina same as everybody else has theirs even them, I certainly wouldn't be consenting to it rapey much

Grimbles · 30/09/2019 17:55

McK is basically a trans Hopkins now. Spews out any old shit to get a bit of attention.

Fraggling · 30/09/2019 18:02

Funny looking vagina is such a bloke thing to say

  1. How is Rachel even looking up there? Presume means vulva
  2. How fucking rude to describe a woman's vulva as 'funny looking',. Young women are getting labioplasty it's increasing numbers as they don't meet what they see in porn. In real life women's genitals are pretty varied. And that's fine, no matter what awful men say
  3. If by 'funny looking vagina' Rachel means a penis then that's ridiculous
LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/09/2019 18:03

Well some people are just funny looking full stop.

DoctorTwo · 30/09/2019 18:09

@BaronessBomburst your redesign is corking. :o

BeMoreMagdalen · 30/09/2019 18:31

There are really only two options that make sense to me. Either McKinnon is the one narcissist to rule them all and in the darkness bind them, or McKinnon is doing a real time application of McKinnon's PhD thesis and attempting to show that you can say absolutely anything and get away with it if you do it with enough bravado.

And actually, I suspect I'm right on both counts.

MouthyHarpy · 30/09/2019 18:35

The McCyclidt tweeted about women with “funny looking vaginas”

A) I think they mean “vulva”.

And
b) they really don’t like women, do they?

ThatCurlyGirl · 30/09/2019 18:38

For someone so hellbent on being called a woman, RM seems to really hate women. Interesting.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/09/2019 18:45

I can think of inserts other than a mild 'away'---- - I applaud your restraint , baronessB.