Police interviewing Caroline Farrow under caution and threatening to arrest her for "misgendering"

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twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1107787009614065664

And, as she says in the thread:

"Meanwhile a group of people have terrified and harassed my family. Doxed my children, made violent and sexual threats, signed me up to porn accounts, did the same to my husband, threatened to visit here. And tumbleweed..."

Fuck. Sake.

That's appalling, especially after having done nothing to protect from the genuine crime of stalking that she has been subjected to.

Susie Fucking Green again. Do the police still come under the jurisdiction of the Home Secretary these days, or has it now been confirmed that they report to her?

This is insane.

Surrey Police need to catch a grip on themselves. Where were the police when golf club batterers were making veiled threats to her?
As per the Twitter thread, didn't @glinner decline to talk to them unless they had grounds for arrest?

Wtf is wrong with the police at the moment? So much real crime that needs time and resources, yet ‘misgendering’ seems to be right at the top of the priority list.

Is misgendering actually a crime? This is pure bollocks, I do wish the police would attend to more serious matters.

Fucking hell.

Maybe they've been spurred on by the success of the recent case involving another mermaids person and tweets ... oh ... wait ...

I'd tell em to fuck off and arrest me. Let them are endless hours with paper work and then complain and sue and be a right pain.

Sounds ridiculous and expensive, but it needs to happen as often as possible so the police start waking up a bit.

I find it utterly unbelievable that calling a child by their biological sex, regardless of their "feelings", is more of a crime than stalking, harassment and threats.

It is beyond ridiculous how things have got to this pass, and it needs to stop!

We should every police force in the country a link to this other thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3535551-To-be-angry-and-distressed-at-the-amount-of-harassment-my-fourteen-year-old-daughter-faces
and ask them when they are going to actually work in favour of half the country. So much time and effort dedicated to a few narcissistic men, many of whom have proven links to dangerous sexual fetishes, and so many women suffering at the hands of men all the fucking time.

I'd recommend the barrister that Miranda Yardley used, Caroline.

She's obviously well up to speed.

If this even gets to court. Which would be beyond ridiculous.

Our police forces are becoming such a laughing stock now, with these ridiculous interviews and arrests, that I don't really have any sympathy for the complaints about police funding cuts anymore. Which is really unhelpful to everyone - considering the spike in violent crime. I despair, I really do.

I'm really quite surprised Susie Green has done this, after Helen Islan's case collapsed so embarrassingly.

I don't know what I am supposed to have said. I can't remember. I have a tweet cleaner on my account which deletes stuff after two weeks and this was back in September.

The police said that following an appearance on Good Morning Britain with Susie Green I made some tweets which 'misgendered her daughter.'

I'm normally pretty circumspect about not misgendering and using neutral pronouns, but I may well have talked about a 'son' or used 'he' in the context of critiquing the decision to go to Thailand. Because surely at the time of the operation, they were surely a he? It was in the past tense.

This cuts right to the heart of the national conversation we are having about what it means to be male and what it means to be female, as I pointed out to the police.

However they got quite shirty and said that if I didn't attend interview then they would get a summons and arrest me.

On the plus side, I am having lots of fun planning my outfit for court and thinking that with 5 children, a spell in prison might be a nice rest and a chance to let someone else do the cooking.

Though I am not quite sure how to explain this to my children.

I'm so sorry Carrow. You seem to be being targeted a lot by the TRAs.

For what it's worth, I thought you did very well in your debate with SG. You came across very calm, articulate, and respectful. That's probably why she's doing this.

"....get a summons and arrest me".

The officer is talking out of their bottom. Or else they are deliberately misleading you.

You get a summons in the post - it is summoning you to court and gives you a court date. That's why it's called a summons. You get a summons after you have been interviewed and the police/CPS judge that there are sufficient grounds to prosecute you.

A police officer cannot obtain a summons for the purpose of an arrest! The summons comes at the END of the investigation.

Say absolutely nothing. No comment. Don't answer questions. Don't justify. Don't explain. Don't agree to an interview. The police have no evidence yet ...... and they are hoping that you will supply it.

The threat of the summons is to put pressure on you to comply. They have to prove the offences beyond reasonable doubt. If you don't say anything about the allegations, they are in a bit of a fix.

And CPS will throw it back at them.

But they said if I didn’t attend the interview they would arrest me. She definitely said that.

You can attend the interview as a gesture of good faith - you don't have to say anything and I'd take a 3rd party with you for your own benefit, so that they can't say you said things you didn't.

They offered me a duty solicitor which implies I have to go doesn’t it? It’s a taped interview. For misgendering, which presumably means using the wrong nouns/pronouns. I am beyond incandescent.

‘I'm really quite surprised Susie Green has done this, after Helen Islan's case collapsed so embarrassingly.’

People who are labour under the impression that every breath they take is to be admired and lauded are incapabkd of learning from the mistakes of their own making or the mistakes of others’.

So sorry you’re having to put up with this fuckeittery, Caroline. The police are an utter embarrassment

Caro. Could you and the other people targeted in this way write a joint letter to the government (or Editor of the Times, whichever you feel is more effective right now) and copying in your local MPs and point out together that there seems to be something of a pattern of designed-to-silence use of the police?

Caro there is a great video on YouTube which am sure is easily found by a police officer explaining why you should never say anything to the police. I strongly advise you to find it and watch it. Lawyer up and don’t do anything to make this easy for them : my bet is it will go away and if not, we have your back here for crowdfunding.

If you do go be sure to take a red pen and laboriously correct any spelling or grammar mistakes on any statement they have written for you to sign.