Police interviewing Caroline Farrow under caution and threatening to arrest her for "misgendering"

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twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1107787009614065664

And, as she says in the thread:

"Meanwhile a group of people have terrified and harassed my family. Doxed my children, made violent and sexual threats, signed me up to porn accounts, did the same to my husband, threatened to visit here. And tumbleweed..."

I'm so sorry you are being treated like this.

Please let us know if you need to crowd fund at any point. You MUST take your own solicitor.

So angry for you, Caroline. What this suggests to me is that the police are either forced to prioritise this as a 'hate crime' or it's just a quick way of bumping up the stats on crimes solved. Or both. Meanwhile the stalking crimes where you are the victim are hard and time-consuming to solve so go to the bottom of the pile. Disgraceful.

I agree that you need legal representation. I also think you can give a no comment interview, which means that you cannot inadvertently give them some evidence in the interview if they don’t have any.
I honestly think the police should be concentrating on protecting the public, not harassing them. I am sorry you find yourself in this situation

Hi Carrow, I am so appalled (but sadly unsurprised) that actual crimes against you and your family are being ignored.

This is the YouTube clip (I think) that a previous poster mentioned it is essential watching.

Definitely take your own legal representation! And make a complaint about the police ignoring the harrassment you have faced while attempting to question you for something that isn't even a crime.

This has got ridiculous now and I, like a pp am wondering if those who have been contacted by the police can do some kind of joint letter appealing to common sense?

Maybe those who have been contacted by the police could band together and raise a complaint to the IOPC for police harassment and sue the person who keeps raising the complaints.

Caro, I am a lawyer, although not practicing in criminal law or I would offer practical help.

Please please please get your own legal advice from someone with an interest in these issues and knowledge about police complaints, stalking and harrassment rather than using the duty solicitor.

Misgendering is not a crime and I would be very surprised if the police could get a warrant for your arrest on the basis of misgendering.

I would be inclined (and this is not advice) to refuse to attend on the basis that misgendering is not a crime and let them arrest you (I suspect they can't). Then make serious complaints not just about the threats you are facing but about the police refusing to deal with them and actually joining in the stalking and harrassment by following up spurious complaints and ignoring your own. I would specifically complain about the officer who said he would get a summons.

Take down the name and number of any officer you speak to so you can name them in your complaint.

I'm sure Caroline would rather this faded away, but I cant help thinking how amazingly a court case would play in the press.

On the one side, a couple of comments that all of middle England could unthinkingly make. Set against them, Susie Green's Thailand visit; and, in the background, an unremitting campaign of threats and harassment that the police seem to have ignored completely.

Whatever you do - do not accept a caution.

So sorry you are having to deal with this.

There was a thread following Posie's police visit where she gave advice, telling us not to say anything if the police are putting the pressure on, because they haven't got any concrete grounds. Of all these visits not one has resulted in a formal arrest/charge.

Agree with pp that you need a specialist legal person, not duty solicitor. I'd be very happy to chip in if you crowdfund.

This is extraordinary. Do the police not have any actual crimes to investigate?

Please do get good advice from a lawyer who understands these issues.

Ffs

I've been cisgender dozens of times

Its literally a non event .

Arresting people who dont play along with a biological impossibility...

Whisk getting arrested for not believing in Santa claus?

So sorry this is happening to you Caroline. Its beyond a joke

For someone so sure of everything they say and do they sure do panic and flip out alot when people dont have the same beliefs.

Misgendered.

Ffs even my phone has swallowed the glitter pill now...

Another one horrified that you are being targeted in this way. I'd consider using this as an opportunity to ask on record (and on tape) detailed questions about what has happened to their investigations into the serious threats and intimidation that you have been suffering and have reported to them . Put on record your questions about what they've done - bet you've got a lengthy file of evidence to go through.

This is truly appalling. In a free country with the rule of law, we are meant to know what is illegal and what isn’t. So, is “misgendering” illegal, or not? It seems at the moment, there is no way it can be. So citizens are being threatened with criminal charges for saying something which is perceived as offensive by a sector of society but is not illegal. Would someone be arrested for “misgendering” Karen White? Does it matter if the “misgendered” person has a GRC, or is even legally of the different sex - ie has an altered birth certificate?
It’s a mess. The police have no idea about what they’re doing. God knows what guidance they’re getting. Does it matter where you live? What police force it concerns. Or is it about the complainant?

I hope this gets reported in the press. I’ll be writing to my MP. I think we all should. Or to police commissioners. I think Caroline Farrow should start the formal complaints procedure - it’s statutory, so would be taken seriously. Outrageous when a woman is threatened in this way.

All this over a woman who made a WHOLE COUNTRY change its law to prevent people doing what she did.

Mind blowing

Bloody hell. caro just seconding what the people are saying about legal stuff. Take you own solicitor, say the legal minimum and DO NOT accept a caution. Ask your own legal folks about making a complaint against the police. Keep screenshots and recordings (where legal) of everything.

💐 this is so shit :(

They are doing it to Caroline to test whether it works against a woman.

Another one dropping in to say I'd support a crowdfund for good legal representation.

My first thought when I saw the thread was that at least you'll be actually in a police station with an officers of the law (ha!) who are ready to listen to what you have to say. Use that opportunity to the max to get your stalking and harassment, and their complete lack of interest or action, on official record.

This is genuinely appalling.

Do get a a lawyer though Caro

Bloody hell. caro just seconding what the people are saying about legal stuff. Take you own solicitor, say the legal minimum and DO NOT accept a caution. Ask your own legal folks about making a complaint against the police. Keep screenshots and recordings (where legal) of everything.

Another one saying the same thing.

Don't make it easy for them.