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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police interviewing Caroline Farrow under caution and threatening to arrest her for "misgendering"

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Pimmsnlemonade · 19/03/2019 00:11

twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1107787009614065664

And, as she says in the thread:

"Meanwhile a group of people have terrified and harassed my family. Doxed my children, made violent and sexual threats, signed me up to porn accounts, did the same to my husband, threatened to visit here. And tumbleweed..."

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wohmum · 19/03/2019 09:12

Long term Lurker here - More than happy to contribute to crowdfunding if needed.

Is misgendering actually illegal or not ?

Datun · 19/03/2019 09:13

Is there someone / some people in the CPS pushing this?

I have zero doubt this is the case. They were complicit, I think even endorsing, the intimadatory rubbish that GIRES sent into schools. Then the Miranda Yardley debacle. If they were aware that what Miranda had done was not breaking any law whatsoever, why bring the case? Unless it's to intimidate.

This is the 'strategic litigation' of TELI in action, isn't it?

Caro, if you can get this anywhere near the newspapers, it would be a massive eye-opener for the rest of the country.

And yes, lawyer up with somebody who gets the situation. Who understands the tactics, can read between the lines, etc. Miranda's lawyer for example.

Flowers solidarity.

Popchyk · 19/03/2019 09:13

How come this is only coming about now?

The Good Morning Britain interview and associated Tweets were in September last year.

6 months ago.

And yes, get Miranda's barrister, Gudrun Young. And crowdfund to pay for it, then sue the police when they drop the case. You won't win a case against the police probably, but the public attention that it gathers will be immense.

sackrifice · 19/03/2019 09:14

These are all test cases to try and make it into a crime.

nettie434 · 19/03/2019 09:16

I have noticed that you are always polite Caroline and find it hard to think you would intentionally misgender anyone. No advice to offer but Flowers and would contribute to fundraiser.

hackmum · 19/03/2019 09:16

Is there someone / some people in the CPS pushing this?

You would hope that they would think twice after what happened in the Miranda Yardley case. What is wrong with them?

littlbrowndog · 19/03/2019 09:17

Caro

What a pile of shite

Yet the police do nothing about the harassment you have faced

Is the police now mermaids special police force ?

Popchyk · 19/03/2019 09:22

Wonder if the collapse of the case against Miranda Yardley two weeks ago inspired a renewed trawling of past "hate incidents" that had been No Further Actioned. To find one that they could pursue. And this was the best that they could come up with.

I'm suspicious of the timing.

Bluestitch · 19/03/2019 09:24

I don't get why they are still doing this though. Every single time they report to the police for wrong think it goes really badly for their cause. Nobody outside of their bubble is on their side, people who have no clue about this debate get angry about the free speech element and the police are roundly mocked.

Glad to see Caro getting good support online though, Harry the Owl's twitter is a sight to behold this morning!

VickyEadie · 19/03/2019 09:25

Just to add my support and if any legal advice/representation needs paying for, I will contribute.

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 19/03/2019 09:28

Q

Estcarpwitch · 19/03/2019 09:31

I'm a long-term lurker but need to post to tell you that I am incandescent with rage at what is happening to you. I will contribute to any crowd funding you set up.
Please don't go for an interview until you have a good lawyer. I watched the you tube video recommended here and it scared me rigid.
Stay strong and know we are with you all the way.

Carowiththegoodhair · 19/03/2019 09:32

Thanks everyone. I have just spoken to a lawyer who is going to act for me. They believe this is a politically-motivated test case and that I am going to get a tough time under interview. Which is why they will be present to intervene and intercept any inappropriate questioning.

Misgendering is not a crime. I just wish I could remember what I have said! So to be clear, I am being targeted over tweets deleted in September. I have a cleaner on my account which wipes everything after 2 weeks.

Oh and I’ve been informed that everything on the abusive doxing website, has been removed. How very convenient! Angry

Popchyk · 19/03/2019 09:36

"I don't get why they are still doing this though".

They are on a time-critical mission, that's why. And they have everything to gain and nothing to lose.

They want self-ID introduced before people realise the implications of it, they want to push through children being medicalised younger and given surgery younger.

They need to do all of this before the wider public clock on to the implications of it.

The only way that they can do this is to try to silence dissenters. Or even people who ask ordinary, respectful, questions. Because the cult does not want any light to be shone on them. For obvious reasons.

A lot of people would be intimidated (and have been intimidated) from speaking out. Who knows how many people have meekly accepted that they shouldn't tweet about transgenderism when the police have turned up at their door to tell them not to? Margaret Nelson was told by police to remove her blog about biological differences after death. She went on Twitter and told the world. How many other people would be willing to be so public about it?

EweSurname · 19/03/2019 09:37

Sorry to hear your are going through this Caro Flowers

If you don't believe in gender or ascribe to it in any way, can you be misgendering someone? Surely you are just describing their sex and not their gender?

Nightowlagain · 19/03/2019 09:39

Also a dedicated lurker here, I am outraged that you are being harassed in this way. I have been leafleting secretly and retweeting some of this stuff but the fear of a knock on the door from the police does freak me out. It’s ridiculous that we should be scared of speaking the truth.

I will happily donate if it comes to it, and just know that you have a lot of support.

Bluestitch · 19/03/2019 09:46

Thanks Popchyk, that makes sense. I hadn't really considered how many people they might have successfully silenced without publicity.

Nephilim1964 · 19/03/2019 09:46

Harry the Owl's twitter is a sight to behold this morning!

It sure is Grin

Police interviewing Caroline Farrow under caution and threatening to arrest her for "misgendering"
Police interviewing Caroline Farrow under caution and threatening to arrest her for "misgendering"
HumberElla · 19/03/2019 09:47

God this is awful. Surely they can’t arrest you if no crime has been committed?! What are they arresting you for?? What would they say the offense was?

Glad you have a good lawyer, that’s a relief. Take down names and dates of your own, keep copies of notes you take and keep them safe.

Start using their own stupidity to trip them up - firstly by complaining about the officer talking that crap about ‘summons’, and threatening to get you arrested for not agreeing to interview- what a load of made up rubbish! You have rights. Assert them and get these bullies pulled into touch!

TerfectlyImperfect · 19/03/2019 09:51

Yet another lurker posting to add my support and rage at what you’re going through. I will also contribute to a crowdfunder Flowers

Reallyevilmuffin · 19/03/2019 09:55

It's a bizzare strange world where going 'you're a c**t mark' at someone on twitter where the police come to you because you should have said 'you're a cunt mary' (obviously without censorship

Datun · 19/03/2019 10:02

Misgendering is not a crime. I just wish I could remember what I have said! So to be clear, I am being targeted over tweets deleted in September. I have a cleaner on my account which wipes everything after 2 weeks.

As far as I remember, from the Posie case, she and her lawyer could get sight of the actual complaint that Susie Green made. Including what screenshots were supposed to be offensive.

Oh and I’ve been informed that everything on the abusive doxing website, has been removed. How very convenient! angry

Again, screenshots?

Although this does imply that Susie Green and the people who have been stalking you are in communication!

Posie also said that she was told she would be arrested if she didn't show up for interview. She said she just said no comment to every single question, which was excruciatingly frustrating.

R0wantrees · 19/03/2019 10:07

Misgendering is not a crime. I just wish I could remember what I have said! So to be clear, I am being targeted over tweets deleted in September. I have a cleaner on my account which wipes everything after 2 weeks.

(Not a lawyer)
Surprised the tweets in question were not been identified to you. Hopefully your legal support can help obtain these asap as pertinent.

AncientLights · 19/03/2019 10:09

Support here also and happy to contribute to crowdfunder. Hope the doxing website/comments were screenshot or archived.

Love Harry the Owl.

nauticant · 19/03/2019 10:10

Oh and I’ve been informed that everything on the abusive doxing website, has been removed. How very convenient!

Do you make liberal use of archiving sites like archive.org/web/ and archive.fo/?

You would be wise to.