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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transman kicked out of gay sauna

210 replies

Badstyley · 31/10/2018 18:15

[ www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-man-sauna/ ]

Seems a transman was asked to leave a male only sauna because he didn’t have a penis.

The sauna said they would have to approach the council to find out if their license would allow them to admit transmen.

Hope the clicky works. If it doesn’t I’ll post the link below.

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HermioneWeasley · 31/10/2018 19:31

Waiting for Harrop, Owen Jones, pink news and Peter tatchell to condemn the bigotry

Antonia87 · 31/10/2018 19:31

Could someone tweet this to Owen Jones for comment pleeeze!!!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 31/10/2018 19:34

mic.com/articles/128056/the-painful-truth-of-being-a-trans-man-on-a-hookup-app

Many respondents pointed to squeamishness or curiosity around vaginas as one of the main sources of cis confusion.

"Cis gay culture is so phallocentric, everybody's expecting a penis," Jack said. "And, you know, some of us don't have that."

AspieAndProud · 31/10/2018 19:35

On a more serious note, the chances that this transman would sexually assault one of the other customers is zero.

That’s pretty much the same chance the sight of their naked vagina would trigger memories of a previous sexual assault by a woman.

The proprietors were correct asking him to leave but there were no safety concerns here, just the right to free associate with people of your own sex and sexual orientation.

KatVonGulag · 31/10/2018 19:36

They are gay men GAY GAYGAYGAY
And saunas are were some GAY MEN go to have GAY SEX
Just leave them alone "Jason"
THEY ARE GAY

QuietContraryMary · 31/10/2018 19:37

Sorry this was the party

www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/101919684/controversy-ahead-of-10-days-of-fun-and-festivities-in-christchurch-pride

It was a 'sex on site' party and they got banned from Gay Pride for not wanting a vagina.

So essentially gay men were told they were no longer welcome at Pride.

heresyandwitchcraft · 31/10/2018 19:38

That's a good point, Aspie
Men are allowed boundaries just because they want them.
Women cannot be allowed any boundaries, despite mountains of evidence, facts, and very real threats to their actual safety.

olderthanyouthink · 31/10/2018 19:38

"I understand that the gentleman was male however his physical gender was different and as a customer had already stated that a female was using the venue, I explained that I would need to clarify with the council"

Or?

"I understand that the gentleman was legally male however his physical sex was different and as a customer had already stated that a female was using the venue, I explained that I would need to clarify with the council"

I think I fixed that

QuietContraryMary · 31/10/2018 19:39

This was the Christchurch Pride that had previously boasted 'nothing's too gay for Christchurch pride week' www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK0705/S00009/nothings-too-gay-for-christchurch-pride-week.htm

Nothing that is, apart from not believing that penis-in-vagina sex is gay.

AspieAndProud · 31/10/2018 19:41

If you are ever asked to leave a gay sauna because you don’t have a penis the best response is ‘Wait, what? I’m sure I had one when I came in...’

InionEile · 31/10/2018 19:41

That sauna needs to be no-platformed and rage-tweeted at from here to eternity for their hateful transphobic exclusion! How dare they misgender that trans man and reject his mangina? I hope our trusty TRA folk are onto them and working to get that sauna put out of business. Transmen are men!

Or maybe we could accept that a gay sauna has the right to discretion with regard to the clientele they welcome, given the battles gay men have fought to find spaces where they can get together in peace without worrying about homophobes, voyeurs or the police?

R0wantrees · 31/10/2018 19:43

They are gay men GAY GAYGAYGAY

There are quite a few female transmen who identify as gay.

Its quite common, especially with younger transmen.

Its a big thing for Rob Noon (NUS officer) who has a close relationship with Jess Bradley.

donquixotedelamancha · 31/10/2018 19:45

This has the potential to take Man Friday to the next level... :-)

Oh please let the next stunt be at a 'full service' gay sauna, lecturing the fellas that the 'spandex ceiling' is transphobic.

QuietContraryMary · 31/10/2018 19:47

Sorry correction, in the end the gay men in Christchurch were cured of their transphobic hatred of vagina.

Transman kicked out of gay sauna
Transman kicked out of gay sauna
Butterymuffin · 31/10/2018 19:47

If Pink News don't publish an article hectoring the sauna for their transphobia, they will be showing their utter hypocrisy on this. Stonewall too.

whatsnewchoochoo · 31/10/2018 19:47

I* really hope this sort of thing continues. The tide will turn once it starts affecting men.*

I'm so so sad at how true this is.

LassWiADelicateAir · 31/10/2018 19:58

I have to say, I’m intrigued by the concept of a transman attracted to men. I figured most transmen were lesbians prior to transitioning

The only trans person I know in real life is exclusively attracted to men. He doesn't remotely fit the MN profile of a girl not being allowed the freedom to be a lesbian/ liking boy things.

AspieAndProud · 31/10/2018 20:03

The bit that makes me giggle is he says he’s ‘very passable’. Sure. The last place a gay man is going to look is between your legs.

hackmum · 31/10/2018 20:07

The comments on the article are hilarious. Some people have well and truly drunk the kool aid.

SirVixofVixHall · 31/10/2018 20:11

So a female heterosexual goes into a male homosexual place and is stunned that nobody wants to get off with her because she doesn’t have the right equipment .

ChattyLion · 31/10/2018 20:13

Agree that once gay men become more widely affected by this type of TRA encroachment and boundary-pushing then there will be more understanding (and a swift, male-socialised rejection!) of what lesbians and women in general are being forced to put up with and be silent about.

Popchyk · 31/10/2018 20:15

It your gay male sex-on-premises club doesn't include people with vaginas then it isn't a gay male sex-on-premises club.

That's fo sho.

R0wantrees · 31/10/2018 20:19

I have to say, I’m intrigued by the concept of a transman attracted to men. I figured most transmen were lesbians prior to transitioning

There is a significant and growing number of young females who are heterosexual and who identify as transboys and gay.

littlbrowndog · 31/10/2018 20:23

What a cheeky fucker tha5 person was
Ffs expecting other people to accept your delusion.
It’s realy so arrogant to spoil other people spaces
Feck we will be driven into secret spaces where them cheeky fuckers can’t access
Imagine sitting there with your female stuff out and not expecting a guy to say something
This was done on purpose
Very provocative

Popchyk · 31/10/2018 20:24

Some men have vaginas.

Get over it.