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Destinysdaughter · 27/08/2018 11:12

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 30/08/2018 12:00

I also think the scouts, gymnastics org, ?young greens, charities he's been invlved with, wheelchair basketball team he was involved with, all need to make some reassuring statements at this point.

The likelihood of him going from zero to what he did to that girl in one step is vanishingly unlikely.

It's incerdibly worrying.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 30/08/2018 12:00

Pride are the only ones who have said anything as far as I know

placemats · 30/08/2018 12:01

According to this link AC is still on the advisory board.

www.stonewall.org.uk/trans-advisory-group

I would have thought Stonewall would be commenting on this if only to clarify the position.

R0wantrees · 30/08/2018 12:10

The chairs of the Greens' LGBTQIA team/committee/whatever have no jurisdiction to ask Aimee to remove that from their profile. Only the Exec can do that apparently and they appear strangely reluctant to force Aimee to do anything ...

There is mention of the the powers of the Green Party Exec in AC's evidence to Commitee on Standards in Public Life (September 2017)
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"Monisha Shah: The Committee has received submissions from members of the public who argue that political parties and their key spokespeople do not set an appropriate tone for public debate, and this can promote an atmosphere where the intimidation of candidates can take place. Do you agree that political parties have a responsibility to show leadership in setting the tone for public debate?
Aimee Challenor: A very good point. They should be leading by example. We should be in a society where we teach to treat each other with respect. It comes from the top and bottom. Politics is toxic. A lot of campaigns involve negative campaigning. We need to see less of that to see a decrease in negative campaigning.
With respect to the Green Party, there is an executive, and a regional committee. We can recall leadership if they are bringing the Party into disrepute. There have been no difficulties with Caroline Lucas or our other Spokespeople."

www.gov.uk/government/publications/intimidation-of-parliamentary-candidates-evidence-from-the-green-party

I found this interesting

Ereshkigal · 30/08/2018 12:22

Very interesting!

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 30/08/2018 12:49

So 'one of our supports was an arsehole online and we're now supporting them through any comments which pointed out what a arsehole they were being'.

Interesting.

Ereshkigal · 30/08/2018 12:52

Was an arsehole threatening violence against a protected group. Surely they should be completely condemning behaviour that might lead to a private prosecution as the trend is clearly going to be?

Ereshkigal · 30/08/2018 12:54

And against a specific group of members of a protected group, unlike other people's tenuous and far fetched constructions.

Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 12:59

When I hear 'Green Party' I don't think ecology, I think trans, it's been that way for a while. It's not so bad with the Lib Dems, my reflexive thought there is 'illiberal' but not yet 'trans party'. Greens to me are the TP.

placemats · 30/08/2018 13:01

Yes the Green Party has long lost it's ecological connections. It's now the party to go to for LGBTetc rights.

WomblingWoman · 30/08/2018 13:21

I'm amazed at the comparison between the swift reaction to Olivia's mis-gendering (suspension then expulsion) compared to what we see happening now.

AC is "being supported" in spite of some very serious allegations of brining the party into disrepute.

Equally what about Tina? As a branch secretary and candidate why is she also not being sanctioned? The allegations her (inc fraud) are extremely worrying for someone who presumably held membership data and need to be investigated.

There are glut of Greens posting very inflammatory statements on social media and yet the party continually fail to act. If they don't have the ability to control/censure SM output from candidates/spokespeople (as opposed to ordinary members) they need to look seriously at the terms under which people can be eligible for such positions in the party.

It seems to me the Coventry branch "was" the Challenor family and as such their ability to act as agents on each other's behalf has led to a total lack of appropriate oversight and due diligence.

It's an utter mess and I can't believe it's not been given wider press coverage.

Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 13:22

Everything it touches, it turns to dust. Michfest, Anarchist Book Fair, all those women's groups, the lesbian groups, WEP, Green Party. Scorched earth, move on.

theOtherPamAyres · 30/08/2018 13:23

New title for the GP of England and Wales, and the GP of Scotland

"The Green Party: proud to be the political wing of Stonewall"

PineappleSunrise · 30/08/2018 13:48

Well, my view of the Green Party has certainly shifted over the weekend. It's been quite an awakening.

LassWiADelicateAir · 30/08/2018 13:53

The Green Party in Scotland is an extreme left wing group obsessed with "land reform" . It lost all credibility on ecological issues when Robin Harper stepped down as co- convener.

KeneftYakimoski · 30/08/2018 13:56

It seems to me the Coventry branch "was" the Challenor family

"Crank minor political party in small city turns out to not have a significant number of active members, ends up being a cult of personality around one family" is hardly unique to the Greens. The SWP is worse, and the Lib Dems aren't entirely immune to it. Citizen Smith, right?

TheCountryGirl · 30/08/2018 13:56

Olivia obviously didn't have enough dirt on Caroline Lucas and Amelia Womack.

KeneftYakimoski · 30/08/2018 13:57

The Green Party in Scotland is an extreme left wing group

The old joke is about watermelons: green on the outside, red on the inside.

carceralfeminist · 30/08/2018 14:03

Perhaps these organizations are still preparing, because there is more to come out? I highly doubt that this horrific rape and torture of a child was DC's only offense. These things don't tend to occur in a vacuum.

KeneftYakimoski · 30/08/2018 14:10

When I hear 'Green Party' I don't think ecology, I think trans

They're a bunch of middle class tossers who still enjoy getting a rise out of their parents by striking modish poses.

Hence their predilection in Germany for encouraging child abuse. "Squares think that sex with children is bad, we're not squares, so we're OK with sex with children". They claim they've moved on, of course.

www.spiegel.de/international/germany/past-pedophile-links-haunt-german-green-party-a-899544.html

NothingOnTellyAgain · 30/08/2018 14:16

I am genuinely gobsmacked that ACs supporters are naming the victim

That is fucking disgusting
Highly illegal
And I can't understand what they hope to achieve. The only motivaiton cuold be to silence other victims but in that case they would have to know there were more and that would mean something so drastic (ie that DC offending was known, and others outside the family know of more victims) that I hesitate to think that's what it is. But what other motivation could there be for naming the vicitm and WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT??????????

WomblingWoman · 30/08/2018 15:36

Interesting possible connection being made on the terfblocker thread between AC and a rather noxious little green twitter vegetable....

Amalfimamma · 30/08/2018 15:44

Business as usual at the Coventry gphq

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VickyEadie · 30/08/2018 15:46

AC doesn't get it. At all. Business as usual, it seems.

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