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Goat dies after violent attack by men **Title edited by MNHQ - distressing article in OP post**

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IDontEatFriedTurtle · 07/08/2018 20:27

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/pregnant-goat-dies-after-being-12998644

Fucking horrific. And thank you to the Metro for publishing this act of sexual assault and animal cruelty under the "weird sex" section.

Honestly, what the fuck is wrong with men. How do 8 men find each other that would willing rape a pregnant goat to death? If there aren't loads of disgusting men out there how do gang rapes happen? coincidence that ab inch of disgusting bastards were together?

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riiiiight · 08/08/2018 07:34

They are artificially inseminated I don't think that's the same as raped by 8 men until death though. Still disgusting yes, and no, most people don't understand that and still aren't mind getting off on the idea of raping an animal to death.

A conversation about the ethics of meat from a feminist angle would be interesting and does occasionally pop up here but I don't think it's helpful to combine the two threads when they are so clearly unrelated.

BigChocFrenzy · 08/08/2018 07:56

Surely there can't be that many men in the locality who have mental illness that manifests itself in being attracted to goats in particular.

Like most sexual violence, it is an expression of power over someone / something else and a joy in inflicting pain & fear on the helpless.

98% of sexual convictions in the UK are committted by men and 85% of all serious crime.

What % of men are committing all these crimes ?
Surveys in various countries have found a surprisingly large minority, usually 20% + of men, would either commit rape if they had the opportunity, or had already done so.

DV is distressingly common, even in countries like the UK which supposedly already have equality and hence, we keep being told, "no more need for feminism"

So it seems it is not just a tiny untypical minority of men distorting the statistics

BigChocFrenzy · 08/08/2018 07:59

As well as far greater propensity to wish to commit violence, esepcially sexual violence,
the generally much physically stronger sex is better able to commit crimes of violence against the generally physically weaker sex

Official crime statistics may change if transwomen are counted as "women" instead of as men, or separately.

So if there is a change, we need to analyse it to counter probable media hype that "women" have become much more violent & sexually violent.

riiiiight · 08/08/2018 08:00

So it seems it is not just a tiny untypical minority of men distorting the statistics

Nope.

Lots of men, and because most men aren't obvious psychopaths it's a lot of "normal" men walking around.

GoldenWonderwall · 08/08/2018 08:03

It’s horrific. And inexcusable. Changing the thread title doesn’t change the utterly horrible shit that goes on every day to animals, to women and to children caused by men so they can get their kicks. Not all men, but too many men.

Floisme · 08/08/2018 08:04

Official crime statistics may change if transwomen are counted as "women" instead of as men, or separately.

So if there is a change, we need to analyse it to counter probable media hype that "women" have become much more violent & sexually violent.

This is possibly the thing that worries me most about self ID. If we can't even name the problem any more then we are well and truly stuffed.

zippey · 08/08/2018 08:09

I don’t believe this story happened. There’s no evidence, just a picture of s dead goat. Not even the full name of the person who reported them. I can’t believe people even believe this story. So many holes in this tall tale.

Yes the press do make up stories!

riiiiight · 08/08/2018 08:17

www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pregnant-goat-dies-after-8-men-gang-raped-it-in-haryana-1299168-2018-07-28

Google is your friend. Not sure why you wouldn't believe it though? Bestiality is a common perversion. And animals are "prostituted" even in Europe, legally in some places iirc. Diectly under the article it links to another man who raped a puppy.

The station incharge of Nagina Rajbir Singh said that they are investigating the case.

AngryAttackKittens · 08/08/2018 08:17

I see the usual "not all men do this, so we mustn't talk about how it's pretty much exclusively men who do this" brigade have sent over a representative.

I'm of the belief that it's more nurture than nature that results in so many men's sexualities being warped to the point where they derive sexual pleasure from torturing other living creatures. Let's hope so, because if it's innate our species is doomed. The way we raise boys can at least potentially be changed.

AngryAttackKittens · 08/08/2018 08:24

Well, that first one was definitely not a headline I was expecting to read today.

riiiiight · 08/08/2018 08:28

These are from 2015 so I guess I am a bit behind the times there, but for the sake of argument I don't think three years ago means it is all ancient history.

AngryAttackKittens · 08/08/2018 08:31

Of course there's a linked Vice video that wants to spin the whole thing as being all "ooh, edgy".

TheCountryGirl · 08/08/2018 08:35

Men always wave away stories of male violence as if it has nothing to do with them. They resort to the whole 'but women do it too...' with a few names like Myra Hindley and Rosemary West thrown in for good measure. 😴 They refuse to face up to the fact that a great deal of men are violent, revolting, twisted pieces of shit. They take it as a personal attack if you mention it. It's all so infuriating how cowardly they are.

musicalxo · 08/08/2018 08:43

I'm ashamed to be humans sometimes.

How do humans have the heart to do this???? I feel sick to my stomach every time I read these sh*t.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/08/2018 09:14

I thought that the excuses and reasoning behind some of the threads about rape, sexual assault and male violence were a bit ....well off, I can't think of another word

Did not expect the same sort of thing in this sort of thread...at all

riiiiight · 08/08/2018 09:23

I thought that the excuses and reasoning behind some of the threads about rape, sexual assault and male violence were a bit ....well off, I can't think of another word Did not expect the same sort of thing in this sort of thread...at all

Well, at least no one asked what the goat was wearing. So there's that.

RebelRogue · 08/08/2018 09:24

@Rufustheyawningreindeer I did expect it given facebook had commenters frothing at the mouth about "misandry" and "sexism" when I refused to accept people and humans instead of men.

TheCountryGirl · 08/08/2018 09:25

*I'm ashamed to be humans sometimes.

How do humans have the heart to do this???? I feel sick to my stomach every time I read these sht.

It's one half of the human race. The men half.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/08/2018 09:31

riiiight

I agree...there was another 'rape reason' im expecting any minute now

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/08/2018 09:32

rebel

Absolutely!

Ive started picking up on it with family and friends

It needs to be named , if its people doing or saying it fair enough

But it rarely is

LaSquirrel · 08/08/2018 09:34

It may not be 'all men', but it sure is a significant minority of men.
They need to be taken out of the gene pool, and off the planet, quickly.
Their depravity knows no bounds.

UptonSnodbury you are a disgusting male apologist.

Melanippe · 08/08/2018 11:38

I'm wondering how on earth anyone could suggest this never happened. A quick Google would have brought up a few hundred links to news stories of sexual abuse by men of animals all over the world. Or were they all made up as well?

As far back as the 1980s, I can remember horses being sexually assaulted, a friend's filly was left for dead after a group of men attacked her, I won't go into detail because the whole thing was harrowing.

I agree that journalists do embellish the truth at times, however, this story in particular rings far too true for it to have been 'made up'.

riiiiight · 08/08/2018 11:43

I'm wondering how on earth anyone could suggest this never happened.

It's a nicer world to live in if you believe it though. I can only assume that's why they repeat it to themselves.

I'm not surprised by men doing terrible things, but when you get stories like this, or football teams gang-raping a woman. You realise that it would be a very large coincidence that a very small minority of men just happened to end up on the same football team. Or in the same village outside the goat farmers house.

That's when it gets scary. There are LOTS of men who are prepared to do truly horrible things.

MoltenLasagne · 08/08/2018 13:01

Reading articles like this is like reading Lord of the Flies where you realise that it's only the rules of society that holds a large minority of men back from truly horrific acts.

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