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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos

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CaitlynsCat · 29/07/2018 02:50

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003331/Britains-official-transgender-student-officer-suspended.html

"Shocking images on the site show an individual flashing while sitting in a train carriage, in a public park and at a bus stop.

Another photograph shows male genitals being exposed in an office close to a curved wooden desk that is strikingly similar to a picture of a work desk that Ms Bradley posted on her Facebook page. "

The photo have been archived on archive.is, you can search there under the domain exhbitionizm.tumblr.com and include lots of flashing shots.

Bradley has commented:

" I appreciate at this time there is a lot of speculation about my conduct and I am able to tell you that I am confident that none of my behaviour has been unlawful, and that I have not engaged in sexual activity with anyone, or in the view of anyone, without their consent. "

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Bingpot · 30/07/2018 13:26

Back to the original point of the thread - is anyone a little concerned/surprised by the silence on this from TRAs in general? I just would have thought there'd be an attempt at a some sort of defence, and nothing from more prominent TRA voices on here too. Just seems a little... odd.

Bingpot · 30/07/2018 13:27

Sorry that back to the original point was a comment on my previous post not the ones since!

genderskeptic · 30/07/2018 13:28

YetAnotherSpartacus We agree other than on the definition of men. Most of the trans women I know, and I don't claim this applies to all of them, but most realised at some point fairly early in childhood that manhood is violent and sought to avoid it. Some did this by being gay, or by being girly, or by participating in communities of women. Almost every trans woman I know has been abused by a man in much the same way as non trans women are. We have more common ground than you think!

As for chromosomes, did you know we actually have no idea what proportion of the population have non XX/XY chromosomes because misogynist biologists for decades only investigated the chromosomes of infertile women? There was a recently published study that found a number of fertile women with chromosomes considered up until then to be causes of infertility!

Another book you might be interested in is Caliban & The Witch — it establishes how men and women were created as labour categories to divide the workforce.

LemonJello · 30/07/2018 13:28

you cannot be going after things like gender recognition

Watch me.

Jess was integral to the current proposal for the change in law. Jess’s motivations for wanting the change in law have now been made public.

“People just want to pee....and flash their penis” is going to be a much harder sell.

LaSquirrel · 30/07/2018 13:28

Fuck me. I'm a mum, a teacher, a real life female person who just wanted to know more about a topic I felt I wasn't quite grasping.

Jeez likeacrow, I had you totally pegged as a sealion. Because you stomped into a thread at about 300-400, demanding that people answer your trans-101 questions. You clearly did not do your research, there are plenty of threads in this forum that would have answered your questions, and websites, frequently linked to.

As a teacher - this is unforgivable. No wonder the education system is so fucked up because teachers don't teach students to do their bloody research. And this applies from primary.

I still have you pegged as a sealion. Until you can prove you have done the reading. Pull that "teach me" stunt again, you will forever be put into the troll bin. Start your own thread for a specific question for clarification, but don't expect the world to revolve around you. Seriously.

R0wantrees · 30/07/2018 13:28

Bradley has also co-founded TELI, which is an organisation set up to establish legal precedents that allow men to trample all over the rights of women and girls basically. Michelle Brewer, a co-founder, will be speaking at a WEP event soon re the GRA. No doubt she will completely ignore or otherwise excuse Jess's actions from being considered relvant to this debate

Tara Hewitt is involved with TELI also Manchester / NW NHS connection.

genderskeptic · 30/07/2018 13:29

Bingpot you're ignoring that the original whisteblowers are "TRAs"

Tinycitrus · 30/07/2018 13:30

Infertility or taking the decision not to have children, or simply not having them due to circumstance is a biological female experience. A truly devastating one for some.

No trans woman could ever understand. Our bodies are primed to
Have children, we have periods etc

I just amazed in 2018 I am sitting here - my teen daughter in bed due to period pain/spots/general horror at the biology of adolescence- saying this.

It’s incredible. It really is.

Bespin · 30/07/2018 13:30

You really do need to learn about the history of transsexualism ... created by medics from the 1950s ... men who transition are mostly expressing a sexual fetish.

oh Jacky you are funny sometimes

that's my gender critical bingo card filled, good job it's the end of the treat. let's tally up the scores for that round.

SophoclesTheFox · 30/07/2018 13:31

Everyone here sees your transparent attempts to derail, genderskeptic. Let women speak.

I am still pondering what it means that this story was revealed by a whistleblower within the movement. I wonder if we can expect to see more of this?

LemonJello · 30/07/2018 13:31

What should I design UpstartCrow? Sorry this thread is so fast moving

LaSquirrel · 30/07/2018 13:32

As for bespin, not bothering to get the paperwork right by 'ticking the right boxes'. Read the fucking form, read the guidance notes (there are always guidance notes). Does your ladybrain get in the way of competent form-filling? Mine doesn't. I read the damned instructions and fill out the form accordingly.

Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos
Bespin · 30/07/2018 13:32

usual race to the end then last ten.

SophoclesTheFox · 30/07/2018 13:33

Oh this has legs for at least one more thread, bespin, don’t worry.

Ereshkigal · 30/07/2018 13:33

Most of the trans women I know, and I don't claim this applies to all of them, but most realised at some point fairly early in childhood that manhood is violent and sought to avoid it. Some did this by being gay, or by being girly, or by participating in communities of women. Almost every trans woman I know has been abused by a man in much the same way as non trans women are. We have more common ground than you think!

Happy to have common ground with males on certain issues and understand that they might be repelled by toxic masculinity. But that doesn't make them women.

leyat · 30/07/2018 13:34

I hold out no hope for WEP, they are utterly incoherent at thsi point...

Floisme · 30/07/2018 13:34

You would certainly expect this to make WEP pause for thought. If they don't they can hardly complain if people start jumping to conclusions.

I can't find a list of any of the founder members on the TELI website but Bradley spoke at their 2016 conference, as did some other familiar faces www.teli.org.uk/annual-conference/

Sarahconnor1 · 30/07/2018 13:34

Do we need a new thread, there are many questions worthy of discussion starting with

The extent of Bradley's influence - we already know they've advised the government and delivered NHS training.

The suggestion made by the whistleblower that trans organisations know about this kind of behaviour - see also Fionne Orlander's tweets in Lang's post.

How someone on 24k can afford to hire Carter Ruck.

I would add where was Maria Miller's due diligence

Ereshkigal · 30/07/2018 13:34

What should I design UpstartCrow? Sorry this thread is so fast moving

Our "trello wall" mapping all the evidence and connections like in a police murder incident room.

treaclesoda · 30/07/2018 13:35

Another book you might be interested in is Caliban & The Witch — it establishes how men and women were created as labour categories to divide the workforce.

So big business invented the idea that women go through pregnancy, and have bodies designed to provide the baby's nutrition for a few months afterwards?

That's certainly an...interesting theory. If somewhat implausible.

BadassUnicorn · 30/07/2018 13:35

I accept that gender and sex are two sides of the same invented coin, with nothing innate or natural about either of them

Most absurd thing I've read in a long time: "Nothing natural about sex". Thanks for giving me a good laugh!

Ereshkigal · 30/07/2018 13:35

Women are not insufficiently masculine men.

leyat · 30/07/2018 13:36

Trans activism is pervasive with violent misogyny, and its very nature as a movement is masculinist.

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