Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos

[CaitlynsCat]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003331/Britains-official-transgender-student-officer-suspended.html

"Shocking images on the site show an individual flashing while sitting in a train carriage, in a public park and at a bus stop.

Another photograph shows male genitals being exposed in an office close to a curved wooden desk that is strikingly similar to a picture of a work desk that Ms Bradley posted on her Facebook page. "

The photo have been archived on archive.is, you can search there under the domain exhbitionizm.tumblr.com and include lots of flashing shots.

Bradley has commented:

" I appreciate at this time there is a lot of speculation about my conduct and I am able to tell you that I am confident that none of my behaviour has been unlawful, and that I have not engaged in sexual activity with anyone, or in the view of anyone, without their consent. "

I do wonder what motivates someone to try to derail a thread about Jess bradley

Oh and the flashing appears to be the tip of the Jess iceberg. There is also a blog, now deleted, but not before it was archived.

old school traditional transexuals had a massive problem with the gate keeping it made them wear dresses and express femininity in a way I'm sure you would not approve of, the sex of my partner as no bearing on who I am I am a oldish school transexual but you mean the ones that agree with you. I am sorry you don't want to take people in good faith but I can not help you with that. when you push away even those of us who actually think there needs to be a debate then you make it very clear to people you don't actually want to discuss this or find a way forwards.

Genderskeptic, if the concept of sex is a colonial construct, how come that adult humans of the class that produces eggs has been consistently oppressed by adult humans of the class that produces sperm throughout history?

Flail! And also sulk.

I expect this is one of our Twitter friends. They think we're all "cis-het middle class white women".

Which begs the question - why do they think no person outside that description could possibly find their way on to here?

a flasher really ought not to have been giving the government advice on whether or not it's safe to let male people into women's spaces

Oh look! The topic!

There's a moat around the FWR board with a dragon that doesn't let you in unless you're white and own an aga, obviously.

Rape can only be committed by men. This is just a fact. You have to have a penis to rape. And men are also generally physically stronger than women, enough to easily physically overpower us if they so choose, and they are the sex that is responsible for the vast majority of sexual and violent crime, and for the oppression of women. There is no way on any level regarding power, physicality or class context that men raping women can be compared to anything that a woman can do.

But any idea that women can be just as bad as men is simply an effort to derail the thread imo.

The bottom line re Jess Bradley is that Jess is male, as in biologically male, and Jess's actions - i.e. getting off on flashing their genitals etc (and I resent not being able to correctly gender Jess on here) - are a result of masculine socialisation. Because males are socialised into masculinity from birth. Jess's actions are consistent with a pattern for the male sex, not the female sex, and as such Jess's sex provides a meaningful context.

In other words, Jess's actions demonstrate that no matter how a male identifies or indeed how established they are within the trans community, they are socialised into masculinity - clearly nothing can change this - and both their socialisation and their bodies make them the same threat to women as men are as a class of people. Trans activists want to make out that gender identity magically erases socialisation and biology but it doesn't. Jess is now an example that screams this in everyone's faces and they hate it. It's time they faced reality, cos it is coming for them fast.

Trans activists want to make out that gender identity magically erases socialisation and biology but it doesn't.

Chesterton's fence in operation.

“Whatcha up to today Jess?”

“I’m conducting a literature review on sex as a social construct”

genderskeptic

"A bunch of white people calling a Nigerian feminist scholar a racist for telling the truth about gender."

That is indeed very interesting. You've read this book, I assume. I am very interested to know what the author has to say about FGM practised widely across African countries and very obviously an historic gendered custom practised well before colonialism was ever part of the history of the African continent. Perhaps you can enlighten us?

Trans activists want to make out that gender identity magically erases socialisation and biology but it doesn't. Jess is now an example that screams this in everyone's faces and they hate it. It's time they faced reality, cos it is coming for them fast.

This is where I point out that this could have been avoided with some basic intra-community policing of standards. When a community instead embraces people like Bradley and allows them to take on leadership roles, well, this is what happens.

There's a moat around the FWR board with a dragon that doesn't let you in unless you're white and own an aga, obviously.

ain't that the truth lol

Derail and The Geneva Convention are about all they've got.

We're beginning to run out of thread. The issues that interest me the most are:

The extent of Bradley's influence - we already know they've advised the government and delivered NHS training.

The suggestion made by the whistleblower that trans organisations know about this kind of behaviour - see also Fionne Orlander's tweets in Lang's post.

How someone on 24k can afford to hire Carter Ruck.

when you push away even those of us who actually think there needs to be a debate then you make it very clear to people you don't actually want to discuss this or find a way forwards.

Conversely, you say you accept that there is a massive problem with the trans movement being overrun with exhibitionists, voyeurs, etc., and with these people speaking for all of you, but you're not willing to take them on (you say you don't have the time, but you spend plenty of time on here, so I don't buy that). So you expect us to simply accept that accepting you, and acquiescing to your wants, means that you, unfortunately, come as a package with assorted perverts. Sorry, that's never going to happen. Only someone who has no understanding of the relentless sexual violence and harassment that women face could think otherwise.

Ah. So not allowing males to exposes their genitals in public is a war crime. Got it.

It's their right to do this. And women's right to protection from this, is a violation of the Geneva convention.

There have been many witty replies to this Gevena Convention stuff. But this one actually made me snort a bit

BertrandRussell if you take a look at the book I cited, Yoruba society is an example of somewhere that women were not oppressed by men. Their language doesn't even have different words for boys/girls, brothers/sisters etc. Any analysis of the society finds that historically, prior to colonisation, there was no difference in status or participation, no division down lines of sexual anatomy. Raising children was communal, not women's work, etc. I promise you the text explains it better than I could.

It's relevant to this thread because many people are trying to argue that sexual anatomy is a natural and ever present threat to women and that makes Jess Bradley somehow worse than any other pervert, and evidence that trans people aren't real. Trans people are the natural consequence of a society that tries to organise itself with an unnatural binary gender system.

"Women and Equalities Committee

Oral evidence: Transgender Equality Inquiry,HC 390
Tuesday 8 September 2015

Ordered by the House of Commons to be published on 8 September 2015.

Includes links to written evidence by Action for Trans Health

Witness[es]: Jess Bradley, Member, Executive Committee, Action for Trans Health"

data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/women-and-equalities-committee/transgender-equality/oral/21345.html

watch the meeting

See, I quite like Fionne who someone linked to so far. Could probably have a productive conversation with Fionne even though we'd no doubt disagree on some things.

Productive debates with women start with not handwaving away our concerns.

Hastag #jessbradley

• When were you first flashed at

if the concept of sex is a colonial construct

oddly enough, I'm pretty sure all those lingas and yonis I saw in Hindu temples in India pre-dated the arrival of the British. I must have been mistaken.

NameChangedAgain18

I have sat on lgbt forums in local councils and the nhs, I have worked for trans organisations, I am now focusing on my own career which will mean I will work 12 hrs shifts I am currently on my dinner break justifying to you what I do. at some point I will not bother and you will be happy until then you will have to put up with me.

See, I quite like Fionne who someone linked to so far. Could probably have a productive conversation with Fionne even though we'd no doubt disagree on some things.

Productive debates with women start with not handwaving away our concerns.

Absolutely.

I mean, look at China, no history at all of men and women being treated differently there until Marco Polo arrived.

(How do people do this with a straight face?)