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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos

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CaitlynsCat · 29/07/2018 02:50

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003331/Britains-official-transgender-student-officer-suspended.html

"Shocking images on the site show an individual flashing while sitting in a train carriage, in a public park and at a bus stop.

Another photograph shows male genitals being exposed in an office close to a curved wooden desk that is strikingly similar to a picture of a work desk that Ms Bradley posted on her Facebook page. "

The photo have been archived on archive.is, you can search there under the domain exhbitionizm.tumblr.com and include lots of flashing shots.

Bradley has commented:

" I appreciate at this time there is a lot of speculation about my conduct and I am able to tell you that I am confident that none of my behaviour has been unlawful, and that I have not engaged in sexual activity with anyone, or in the view of anyone, without their consent. "

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Rufustheyawningreindeer · 30/07/2018 13:00

Oh ok angry

But all this social media stuff doesnt sound very pleasant at all!!

BertrandRussell · 30/07/2018 13:00

Genderskeptic- howdid the Yoruba people know who to perform FGM on?

AngryAttackKittens · 30/07/2018 13:01

I'd suggest that we all ignore the attempt to derail the thread into How Gender Works and How To Raise Children To Combat It, which is a rather transparent attempt to stop everyone talking about Jess Bradley and what the revelations about them say about the level of immunity that declaring a trans identity gives you in some organizations.

VickyEadie · 30/07/2018 13:02

I am genuinely concerned when people volunteer that they are dbs checked and that they understand the responsibility that the post carries.

Speaking as someone who has been DBS checked for my work, I'll say what I said when they invented its predecessor, the CRB: it provides no evidence whatsoever of non-criminal activity, or criminal activity which has not yet been detected.

As such, a DBS offers little if any help in detecting the 'not yet caught' perverts, abusers and sex offenders.

KittyKlaws · 30/07/2018 13:02

YetAnotherSpartacus thank you! I'm glad there are a few people around here with their heads screwed on.

Patronising. Nice

You did see the part of her post where she said she wasn't sure it amounted to what you said or about your reductio ad absurdum.

Or is your head needing a wee twist to the left just now?

By the way - not reading one book out of millions doesn't mean people 'don't have their heads screwed on'.

Anyway, lets get back to the person who is fighting to remove safeguards for women and children but also likes to expose and play with their penis in public places. Since it seems with your head needing that wee twist you seem to have forgotten the subject of the thread.

Bingpot · 30/07/2018 13:02

Hang on @genderskeptic you're claiming that Yoruba society wasn't delineated by sex and that men and women were involved in all manner of tasks. And it was the colonisers who came and introduced those boundaries?

Are you implying then that the men menstruated and gave birth to children? Because unless that's what you mean, what you're actually talking about is gender roles and it's nothing new that societies' perceptions of gender display some variation across different cultures. Not sure what your big 'gotcha' moment is meant to be here.

And thank you for your casual racism, but I'm not white. Not all people on here are.

genderskeptic · 30/07/2018 13:02

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Bespin · 30/07/2018 13:02

Rufustheyawningreindeer

Thanks there are still a few typos left over but I'm training it also if there were none then you would think it was someone else lol

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 30/07/2018 13:04

Abso-bloody-lutely bespin

People would probably think the same about me if i used any punctuation

Ive turned it off on my ipad...it was pissing me off

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 30/07/2018 13:04

We're beginning to run out of thread. The issues that interest me the most are:

The extent of Bradley's influence - we already know they've advised the government and delivered NHS training.

The suggestion made by the whistleblower that trans organisations know about this kind of behaviour - see also Fionne Orlander's tweets in Lang's post.

How someone on 24k can afford to hire Carter Ruck.

These points need repeating.

But, if people knew of their behaviour, why give them so much power, it's bound to come out (bad phrasing) eventually. Also, why invest so much money in protecting them.

Everyone knows transpeople have the power of 'not all trans people' therefore could be disregarded as a bad egg.

Unless their behaviour seems normal in their circle?

Bingpot · 30/07/2018 13:04

And more to the point, the norms of Yoruba society can't be falsely crowbarred into some sort of justification for autogynephiles gaining access to women's spaces. It's illogical.

R0wantrees · 30/07/2018 13:05

The issues that interest me the most are:

The extent of Bradley's influence - we already know they've advised the government and delivered NHS training.

Floisme

This may be of interest: www.edf.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Transforming-Outcomes.pdf

Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos
Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos
Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos
YetAnotherSpartacus · 30/07/2018 13:06

Here is a very good description and critique of the Yoruba book.

www.codesria.org/IMG/pdf/BAKERE_YUSUF.pdf

Bertrand - I think that Oyèrónkẹ́ Oyěwùmí is writing about the culture before Islamic colonisation brought FGM (but I might be wrong there).

NameChangedAgain18 · 30/07/2018 13:06

And thank you for your casual racism, but I'm not white. Not all people on here are.

I expect those of us who aren't white will be told that our minds have also been poisoned by colonialism and that we're suffering from internalised racism.

Bespin · 30/07/2018 13:08

As such, a DBS offers little if any help in detecting the 'not yet caught' perverts, abusers and sex offenders.

Totally agree with that too, its why if concerns were raised why no one at least asked about this, I would have wanted to know how it effected there role and if they felt it was acceptable which to me I don't think it is.

hackmum · 30/07/2018 13:08

tinycitrus: "Twitter is saying it’s the NUS using Carter Ruck - I don’t think that can be true."

I know the debate has moved on since this was posted, but I have no appetite for debating with genderskeptic, who seems to wilfully misunderstand the arguments.

I think it is at least possible that it is the NUS using Carter-Ruck. They may well want to keep the fact that they've suspended one of their officers for sexual misdemeanours out of the media. It's extraordinarily embarrassing for them. The NUS receives a lot of government money, so I'll be pretty pissed off if my hard-earned taxes are paying for eye-wateringly expensive lawyers to hide the NUS's own ineptitude.

Handsoffmysweets · 30/07/2018 13:08

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genderskeptic · 30/07/2018 13:09

The only illogical thing is organising society on the basis that there's some fundamental difference between sexes that allows the creation of two distinct categories beyond the socially constructed.

Many women are infertile, many men can lactate. Almost all trans women can lactate. Womb transplants are likely possible within the next decade... To say nothing of intersex people!

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Popchyk · 30/07/2018 13:12

Jess Bradley seems to go by Jess Histeria Bradley.

Here they are trying to get the president of the NUS relieved of her post.

archive.li/qJqH0

Also a GoFundMe for Jess Histeria Bradley, raising funds for trans electrolysis.

uk.gofundme.com/swimming-for-trans-electrolysis

JackyHolyoake · 30/07/2018 13:12

genderskeptic

I recommend that you avoid defamation of Blanchard. He did not work with children. Perhaps you mean Alfred Kinsey, John Money and Harry Benjamin here; these doctors are the founders of transsexualism

Blanchard's analysis was based on many years as a psychiatrist interviewing and assessing adult males who requested sex reassignment surgery. His analysis is globally accepted as accurate and is included in the DSM-5 in the section about Paraphilic Disorders wherein it is explained that transvestism is a subtype of autogynephilia. No other person has been able to offer any viable alternative analysis. Generally, the only people who attempt to discredit Blanchard and deny the existence of autogynephilia are the AGPs themselves.

Jess Bradley, first transgender student officer, suspended after flashing photos
KittyKlaws · 30/07/2018 13:12

@YetAnotherSparacus - thanks for posting that, I've saved it to read later.

I agree these are the salient points we need to address:

The extent of Bradley's influence - we already know they've advised the government and delivered NHS training.

The suggestion made by the whistleblower that trans organisations know about this kind of behaviour - see also Fionne Orlander's tweets in Lang's post.

How someone on 24k can afford to hire Carter Ruck.

genderskeptic · 30/07/2018 13:12

I never suggested that going after Jess Bradley for what she's done is a violation of any convention. Going after all trans people for the actions of an individual is collective punishment.

“Collective punishment is a form of retaliation whereby a suspected perpetrator's family members, friends, acquaintances, sect, neighbors or entire ethnic group is targeted. The punished group may often have no direct association with the other individuals or groups, or direct control over their actions.”

Unless you think literally every trans person in the country knew about what Jess did and condoned it, you cannot be going after things like gender recognition and equal rights for trans people.

UpstartCrow · 30/07/2018 13:13

Safeguarding fails when everyone assumes someone else did the checks.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 30/07/2018 13:13

The only illogical thing is organising society on the basis that there's some fundamental difference between sexes that allows the creation of two distinct categories beyond the socially constructed

To some degree, this is my ideal future (I'd like to see social differences and inequities erased). But it won't happen until men (XY, penis bearers) give up their power.

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