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Trans Voices For Appeal Complain About Together For Yes Campaign

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SunsetBeetch · 27/05/2018 08:45

You couldn't make it up at this point, could you?

""Trans Voices for Repeal would like the..Together for Yes campaign..to formally acknowledge the pain their actions have caused trans people in Ireland, the negative effect their campaign has had on the mental health of trans people and the unnecessary nature of this exclusion."

twitter.com/doormatt134/status/1000620731468845057?s=19

medium.com/@transvoicesforrepeal/trans-voices-for-repeal-call-on-the-together-for-yes-campaign-to-formally-apologise-to-trans-people-84931f0fa85d

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Cwenthryth · 27/05/2018 12:08

Do you know something everyone else doesn’t, SMG?

The thing about satire or parody is that it’s meant to be funny - this isn’t funny.

velourvoyageur · 27/05/2018 12:08

Just the stunningly blind arrogance of telling women who grew up knowing that they'd be legally forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term that they're 'cis' and call themselves women because they feel some sort of inner resonance with the gendered socialisation they received, and because they were somehow born predisposed to not finding it problematic.

ToeToToe · 27/05/2018 12:10

omfg you actually thought this was real?

Why wouldn't we? This is the aim of transactivism - trans lobbyists are in our NHS, advising parliament, and in our schools, actually saying this stuff - about trans-inclusiveness.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 27/05/2018 12:14

SMG If you know for certain, that this is just shite satire, then please do come back and let is know.

As others have said, sadly this IS very much the tone of real TRA witterings. Which shows just how fucked up the situation is...

Writersblock2 · 27/05/2018 12:25

As far as I’m aware, this is real. It’s outrageous. We should use this to spur us on. Every bit of bullshit like this feeds my motivation to fight.

Popchyk · 27/05/2018 12:31

Here's their Twitter feed:

twitter.com/transforrepeal

Lots of different people on there unhappy that the campaign was not gender-neutral from the outset and that people should be referring to pregnant people rather than pregnant women.

TERFragetteCity · 27/05/2018 12:32

omfg you actually thought this was real?

Are you saying that if it was real it would be totally outrageous?

Interesting.

SupermatchGame · 27/05/2018 12:34

Are you saying that if it was real it would be totally outrageous?

Yes.

R0wantrees · 27/05/2018 12:36

Lots of different people on there unhappy that the campaign was not gender-neutral from the outset and that people should be referring to pregnant people rather than pregnant women.

Legislation and policies which affect women will be being drawn up as a result of the referendum.

There may well be a push to influence the language in new legislation and policies re 'woman' and 'female'.

TERFragetteCity · 27/05/2018 12:37

Yes.

On what grounds?

LassWiADelicateAir · 27/05/2018 12:41

SupermatchGame

Are you saying that if it was real it would be totally outrageous?

Yes

Why are you saying it isn't real? The twitter feed is real. They have verifiably real followers. This appears on the twitter feed.

HerFemaleness · 27/05/2018 12:43

omfg you actually thought this was real?

Poe's law.

SupermatchGame · 27/05/2018 12:45

Which twitter feed lass?

SupermatchGame · 27/05/2018 12:48

Poe's law.

So that is actually a thing. Just googled it. Oh well every day is a school day on here.

SupermatchGame · 27/05/2018 12:49

On what grounds?

On what grounds do you think TERFragette?

NotTerfNorCis · 27/05/2018 12:53

I'm sure it's real. The Twitter account is more than 2 months old and has 134 serious-sounding tweets. It's followed by TRAs including Aoife Martin, as well as a lot of Repeal people. They wouldn't be there if it was mocking TRAs.

Popchyk · 27/05/2018 12:55

God, there are some belters on that Twitter feed.

I laughed my arse off at this one:

twitter.com/transforrepeal/status/980923872190058498

"And if you’re a local @Together4yes group reading this, do right by us, do right by the non-women and non-girls who cross that sea at the same rate as the others, shipped away by our government like some great shame for something that should be free, safe and legal at home"

And this:

twitter.com/transforrepeal/status/980797446182920192

Fun fact, 50% of the people I know who have travelled for abortion are not women. Do better #together4yes, we are real and the 8th is hurting us too.

NotTerfNorCis · 27/05/2018 12:55

So it's a genuine Twitter account, and it claimed the Medium piece. Case closed.

AdeliciousRex · 27/05/2018 12:56

Whoops. That means that supergamematch agrees on something here. Quick, take it back! Grin

TERFragetteCity · 27/05/2018 12:58

On what grounds do you think TERFragette?

You are the one saying it cannot be real.

So on what ground would it be outrageous if it was?

If you are going to tell us an opinion at least follow through with a reason.

Unless you don't actually know why you think what you think.

LassWiADelicateAir · 27/05/2018 12:59

Which twitter feed lass?

The one linked to.

SupermatchGame · 27/05/2018 13:00

I do know and I also know where you're going with this. Just stop.

Either way it is clearly a lunatic twitter account with no credibility.

HerFemaleness · 27/05/2018 13:03

supermatchgame On what grounds do you believe that 'trans voices for repeal' are not acting in good faith in making this request.

The twitter feed suggests that person behind it sincerely believes that trans people are the most victimised and oppressed of all here because they're not being centered in a woman's fight for control over her body.

I get that you want to disassociate yourself from such blatant narcissism but suggesting that it's 'not real' makes you look desperate.

TERFragetteCity · 27/05/2018 13:04

I do know and I also know where you're going with this. Just stop.

Either way it is clearly a lunatic twitter account with no credibility.

You mean I am trying to get you to clearly explain something that you said - yes going down into the depths of darkness there.

LassWiADelicateAir · 27/05/2018 13:04

Here is the link

twitter.com/transforrepeal

And here is the screenshot of it appearing in that feed.

Supermatch- I rarely post on trans threads. Most of the regulars on FWR recognise that "gender critical" / trans issues are not of any great concern to me.

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