Shon Faye & Ash Shankar review of Gender quake.

[DJLippy]

novaramedia.com/2018/05/14/the-ciscourse/

It's throw a brew at the telly time.

Novaro brats talking about all those nasty terfs 'howling coyotes'.

Canny do it.

Its over an hour long. If someone takes one for the team we have to buy them gin.

That looks like an hour of my life I'm not going to get back. Think that'll be a hard pass.

Ash Sarkar is an idiot. The less said about Shon Faye the better. Is that a link to an hour-long Novara Media video? Who would waste their time watching that?

Shon calls us 'odd reactionaries, like Mary Whitehouse' and that we gather together under the banner of 'TERF'

I feel like I'm watching it on all your behalf.

'A lot of women have been radicalised online in certain fora'

Can you guess which one Shon mentions? Can you? Go on, have a stab at it

I watched some. Quite interesting. Apparently we're all rallying under the TERF banner. Narry a mention of gender critical thought. Also, not far in Ash seemed to be threatening serious violence against hecklers. Didn't Linda Bellos get interviewed by the police for something less extreme?

It's also worth a watch for Shon's exaggerated body movements. I was wondering all the while whether Shon moved like that when Shon identified as male.

Can you guess which one Shon mentions? Can you?

takes a wild guess

Turfnet?

Ok here is a snippet wherein Ash talks about Germane Greer that "nasty woman" from the "horrible feminism" In the ad break....

Greer "Are you sneering at me?
Ash "I think I am sneering at you yes"
Greer "From what position do you think you are able to sneer at me"
Ash "I'm an academic too I'm an equal."

*Flicks hair

Ooo have I been radicalised? Sounds dangerous.

terfnet 😂

‘What makes a woman?’ OR ‘men mansplaining to women what a woman is, then are shocked that women tell them that they are full of shit!’

I haven't got the will to get past 21 mins but here are some quotes.

Shon: 'the debate was a theatre of transmisogyny'

'Think of the Westboro baptist church. They're all about looking horrible. Some journalists writing about this issue try to present a respectable face [writing about the trans debate] but there are also zealots [shon was trying to make the point that not every single Westboro member would appear to be evil if you chatted to them]. Terfs have a bunker mentality, like religious extremists. They see themselves as the sole voice speaking out against transacceptance.

Shon said that some of the feminism of the 70's was 'really nasty'

The interviewer said of the debate 'the Terfs were unpleasant. If i was a Terf I'd say it was a shitshow for our campaign because the Terfs were being really horrible. It was Transphobia live on tv'

Ash called the 'Terf' audience members 'howling coyotes.' She commented on the 'grace and poise of the transwomen' fa5ving that.

Shon called Monroe a 'trans sacrificial lamb' in the debate

Who is this Ash woman? She seems to possess a half-decent brain. She should be able to understand the nuance of the debate. Why is she so happy to screw over women?

Ash comes across as an idiot. How can she say she is equal intellect wise to the amazing Germaine Greer?

Ash's twitter here (her surname is Sarkar btw)

Her tagline on twitter is 'walks like a supermodel, fucks like a champion.'

I've seen a few female (young) wannabe journalists recently whose twitter feeds are littered with aggression and swearing lately. Perhaps it's the new trendy thing but I can't see these women ending up with the respect and following that Lyse Doucet, Marie Colvin or Kate Adie have. I'm not saying women should be delicate flowers but aggression on a professional account as an attempt to make oneself look cool/edgy runs the risk of just making you look a bit dim, in my view. Is it just me?

While I expressed doubts about whether it would be worthwhile to spend time watching this, I do appreciate the reports from the frontline of time wasting.

Greer "Are you sneering at me?
Ash "I think I am sneering at you yes"
Greer "From what position do you think you are able to sneer at me"
Ash "I'm an academic too I'm an equal."

hahahahaha.

Delusions of grandeur from a poor misguided fool.

Apparently she's a lecturer in Global Politics at Anglia Ruskin but there's no mention of her on their website. All the other references are circular, citing her senior editorship at Novara - a website that she and her mates set up.

We see you

I've seen a few female (young) wannabe journalists recently whose twitter feeds are littered with aggression and swearing lately.

It's all a bit 90s ladette. It's a shame for Ash that the Girlie Show or the Word isn't on now, instead she has to make do with shit Novara Media. Sadface.

Sarkar is deluding herself if she thinks she Germaine Greer's intellectual equal.

Laurie Penny's sister Eleanor is senior editor there as well. It's a clique isn't it? I knew I'd come across the name somewhere before.

'Greer "Are you sneering at me?
Ash "I think I am sneering at you yes"
Greer "From what position do you think you are able to sneer at me"
Ash "I'm an academic too I'm an equal'

Sweet Jesus. Please tell me this didn't actually happen or else I might just die of embarassment for Ash Sarkar. I hope Germaine Greer absolutely pissed herself laughing

According to this Novara Media was dissolved in January by Companies House:

www.pressgazette.co.uk/novara-media-ltd-dissolved-by-companies-house-after-failing-to-file-document/

They're still operating though?

"Luxury communism"???

Holy shit these people live in a total bubble don't they.

'I'm not saying women should be delicate flowers but aggression on a professional account as an attempt to make oneself look cool/edgy runs the risk of just making you look a bit dim, in my view. Is it just me?'

Definitely not just you to me, it screams insecurity and comes across as way too try hard and inauthentic