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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How to make love to a trans woman

286 replies

PsychoPumpkin · 22/03/2018 10:08

Article link.

transsingleblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/25/make-love-with-transgender-females/

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Definitelyanamechange · 23/03/2018 01:53

So many of the threads on this board are doing great things to raise awareness and encourage campaigning, this one feels totally unnecessary.
Someone's written an article that is seemingly trying to sell sex with transgendered women as being better than sex with natal women? Good luck to them, if they find men willing to believe it then they can get on with it. This thread just seems to be here to give people a chance to mock.

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 23/03/2018 02:00

This is one of the worst things I have ever had the misfortune to read. Is it a joke?

MistressDeeCee · 23/03/2018 02:04

Pathetic and laughable. .Is this a Self-ID bod? Their jumping up and down trying to barge into womens' spaces, replace women etc, is all because they want the attention of straight men. I hope they get the attention they're looking for. It won't be the kind of attention they want though. I can't wait for the day straight men wake up en masse, see the true agenda and tell the Self-ID lot to get to fuck out of here. Straight male voices are the only ones who can deal with this if they ever have a mind to. No-one else will be heard.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/03/2018 02:08

How dare women mock delusional misogynistic men? That's positively unladylike, that is.

Balaboosteh · 23/03/2018 03:03

“Most cis-women have a certain frigidity to them that does not allow them to totally open up during the lovemaking, but there is no such problem with Trans women.“
Look, a new improved version of a woman! This reads like a advertsisemt for a new car or fridge. The misogeny is breathtaking!

speakout · 23/03/2018 06:35

Most cis-women have a certain frigidity to them

Men who call women frigid say more about themselves than women.

NaiceBiscuits · 23/03/2018 08:15

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TinLizzy · 23/03/2018 08:16

You know, historically, sex for women is dangerous. Dying in childbirth was a very real risk. Maybe our frigidity is an evolutionary way to not die for the sake of pleasing men.

Hypermice · 23/03/2018 08:18

"Modern women have a plethora of issues which make them caustic;

My level of disdain for this shit is so high you could clean ovens with it.

Hypermice · 23/03/2018 08:25

But seriously though this is the red pill mentality though isn’t it? It’s basically

‘I can’t get laid. Why can’t I get laid? Maybe I’m just not a very pleasant person..? No, no can’t be that. Must be those damn frigid women. They need to be made to fuck me.’

No reflection on the fact that perhaps the best way to get a shag is to be decent, respectful, treat women like human beings etc. They think the world owes them a woman, and think that men who ‘get’ women do it because they’re rich and good looking and all women are venal gold diggers.
And they don’t see why they should ‘lower’ their standards to a ‘fat slovenly saggy’ specimen, despite not being an Adonis themselves. And despite that fact that looks actually don’t matter that much, most people who are functioning humans can attract partners whether they’re good looking or not.?

Zero personal insight, massive entitlement and Male rage. It’s a toxic cocktail.

Juells · 23/03/2018 08:26

transgender woman are women, and in many ways they are probably the only women around

the vast majority of cis-women do not act feminine

It's just very sad and delusional.

Didn't Stephen Fry say much the same thing about women a few years ago? Frigid, and only had sex to trap men.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/03/2018 08:31

Trans + incel = trancel, and that's exactly what we're seeing here, with all the bitter angry resentful misogyny that the term incel implies. Maybe in the case of the MRAs who trans we could say they've taken the pink pill.

CaptainCardamom · 23/03/2018 09:17

The first thing that you have to understand is that, despite what the mass media and the society says, transgender woman are women, and in many ways they are probably the only women around. A transgender woman, due to her unique position of being born in the wrong body, understands the needs and desires of men in ways that are impossible for an average cis-woman.

Wow, that's spelt it out quite clearly that the actual definition of being a real woman is being wholly centred around the needs and desires of men.

So a lesbian isn't a woman, and nor is a woman who just can't be arsed with men and wants to be single, and nor is a woman who has anything more important in her life than man-pleasing.

Trans-women take much better care of their appearance than the slovenly modern cis-woman.

I have looked at a few dating sites, though not with any serious intent, just to see how it all works since I became single recently. What struck me is that the women on dating sites look after their appearance a lot better than the men do. And it's women who are tired of OLD because of all the misogynistic, sex-crazed arsehole men they have to wade through.

I'm not here to mock, or to be horrible about these people for fun, and I know not all trans people are like this. However, a lot of people like this do get to be listened to at the moment thanks to the trans "trend" and the desperate desire of a lot of organisations and authorities not to appear transphobic. This is obviously the extreme end of the misogynistic bollocks, but the same, if milder, misogyny is there in a lot of the more mainstream debates as well. It's right to start a thread highlighting this and to discuss it and point out why it's wrong.

FizzyGreenWater · 23/03/2018 09:53

not all trans people are like this

Well yes of course. Let's call it what it is. These people are not 'trans' anything really - all of the above, every single word of it, is male entitlement, male rage, a particularly twisted version of the patriarchy writ large. These people could not display more negative masculinity if they tried. The woman-haters have simply taken a step further forward - we've worked out that we can do better than stamping on you, we can actually rub you out and make a fake version of you that belongs to us and we'll be back in charge of you, so nerr.

These people are masculine in every possible way, so masculine that they need to completely eclipse what they see as female, actually take it away and remake it in their own image.

As far as I can see, nothing that someone as deeply disturbed as Paris Lees writes has anything to do with gender dysphoria. If that person felt that they wished to be female and not male, then they presumably wouldn't display the hatred for women which is clear in every word they write, from their deeply entitled, utterly mascline, aggressive, testosterone-dripping perspective.

I feel for the many genuine 'trans' people out there who will suffer now that the troublemakers have crashed in and started throwing their weight around.

Terfragette69 · 23/03/2018 09:53

Of course this article doesn't prove that all transwomen are like this but some are and to those that will bend over backwards to defend these men I ask WHY? How can you not see the dripping hatred, the appropriation of womanhood...... And they wonder why we are fighting against this!

AngryAttackKittens · 23/03/2018 10:00

Trans-women take much better care of their appearance than the slovenly modern cis-woman.

Someone ought to tell Muscato and Peto, eh? Don't think they got the memo.

PsychoPumpkin · 23/03/2018 10:27

Wow that site gets worse and worse as you read more!

Well this slovenly NATAL woman is just going to pop off and put her make up on. Gotta compete with all these real women with their real lady penises.

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LangCleg · 23/03/2018 10:37

Zero personal insight, massive entitlement and Male rage. It’s a toxic cocktail.

Trans + incel = trancel, and that's exactly what we're seeing here, with all the bitter angry resentful misogyny that the term incel implies.

Exactly.

And the point is that these people exemplify all of the male pattern abusive attitudes and behaviour from the Duluth wheel that we have spent decades developing women's services for and legislating against. These are the very males services and laws protect us from. We cannot turn it back to women to manage on an individual basis - that's what gets women beaten and killed. The state must manage this level of delusion and disorder.

I can't help it if someone's inner sense of self results in a drastically reduced dating pool. I cannot be expected to personally manage it when such people come into my life and exhibit dangerous delusional behaviour. The services and laws that have evolved to protect me from having to do this cannot be undone by self-ID.

LangCleg · 23/03/2018 10:38

I sincerely believe that AGP men are more, not less, likely to be dangerous to women than other men.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/03/2018 10:42

Me too. I'd rather take my chances with the average bloke on the street than with a man with AGP in terms of safety, the odds are better.

Datun · 23/03/2018 11:27

Oh god same here.

The difference between sexism and misogyny.

TempusFugitive · 23/03/2018 12:37

I know it's not funny but I nearly splat out my tea at the suggestion that modern women have more issues than a transgender mtf

TempusFugitive · 23/03/2018 12:38

on the one hand they're the victims of so much 'hate speech' but they have no issues. Women born in to the right bodies are the ones with issues. Confused

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 23/03/2018 12:43

The difference between sexism and misogyny

Yes you're right

Kneedeepinunicorns · 23/03/2018 12:52

I went to a reunion of school friends at Christmas this year, about 30 years since we were teenagers together. It struck me how many of the girls I grew up with rejected marriage and are happy, single middle aged women enjoying their freedom. A couple were briefly married, many just didn't want the hassle.

Its clear from the trancel red pill stuff above that the main issue with women is their lives no longer centre wholly around a man. But that's fine, because we have men women who will serve men's needs much better than women will.