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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Thread of RAGE

216 replies

BarrackerBarmer · 05/03/2018 23:23

Tomorrow I shall compose myself, continue speaking up, fight on, and we'll carry on getting stronger.

But I thought I would just explode my rage here, if you all don't mind, as I want to get angry tonight instead of desperate. Join me if you want to rage in company.

So.

FUCK YOU LABOUR, with your shortlists and your dismissive hatred of the female sex.

FUCK YOU, WEP, for choosing the wrong side and abandoning women this way

FUCK YOU BBC, for your biased coverage and concerted cheerleading of transing children and ignoring women

FUCK YOU ALL, you fools who aren't listening or respecting women.

You're all creating a monster and we will hit back HARD.
Our numbers are building.
We will NOT be defeated.
We keep fighting
We keep growing.

I AM RAGING.
I WILL NOT STAND DOWN.

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Floisme · 06/03/2018 19:06

So basically Owen Jones says we didn't ask nicely enough.

What a suprise.

SunsetBeetch · 06/03/2018 19:07

Oh and someone else on twitter. He was following me then sent be several long messages explaining that he'd had a look at my timeline and how he didn't think we could be friends, that i wa shitty ti trans people (I'm not) and that he had a man's perspective on feminism, but then nevertheless proceeded to tell me how I wasn't doing feminism correctly. The phrase 'narrow definition of a woman' was used. I didn't bother replying.

May I should.stay off twitter! But it's the best social media tool for activism, I think.

SunsetBeetch · 06/03/2018 19:12

Aaaand breathe...

The Thread of RAGE
RedToothBrush · 06/03/2018 19:41

James Kirkup @jameskirkup
James Kirkup Retweeted Owen Jones
I’m neither Labour nor a woman, but I’m proud to have friends who are both. Many have valid questions about this issue. The sight of this man crowing about imposing a policy that worries them - and laughing about ignoring their views - is repulsive.

Whatever you think of Kirkup, I think this sums it up very well.

ChocolateCoveredGrapes · 06/03/2018 20:30

Is OJ telling us CS is another troll?

terryleather · 06/03/2018 20:34

LOJ is a fudd.

I feel much better for saying that and am now going to have Wine!

MorrisZapp · 06/03/2018 20:40

Fuck you Stonewall.

Fuck you Pride.

Fuck you Pink fucking News

Fuck you Owen fucking prick breath Jones

You are the Quality Street of human beings. You used to be ace and now YOU ARE SHIT.

I HATE YOU.

I hate that now I'm the fucking bad guy. I'm the old fashioned person. I'm the person needing to fucking educate myself.

Well guess what you fucking delusional fucking spunktrumpets, THE PUBLIC ARE TERFS.

YES. The public. Those people who go to like, shopping centres. And have jobs. And say things like eeh Joan is that a man?

So GOOD FUCKING LUCK getting them to swallow your made up anti science bullshit. They neither know nor care what a fucking transphobe is. The do know that they don't want their daughters, granddaughters or nieces getting undressed alongside ADULT FUCKING MEN.

And guess what, shitheads?

THEY FUCKING VOTE.

terryleather · 06/03/2018 20:45

Morris
Yes, yes, yes to your post especially this bit:

You are the Quality Street of human beings. You used to be ace and now YOU ARE SHIT.

I am stealing that because it is ace.

SunsetBeetch · 06/03/2018 20:48

Do men get called terfs ever or just 'supporters of terfs'? Hmm

SoFancy · 06/03/2018 20:50

Everything MorrisZapp said, especially the Quality Street bit.

HomeTerf · 06/03/2018 21:21

Just coming on here to say thank you to Graham Linehan, because I can't do it on Twitter. Which utterly sucks. I'm in a not-unrelated industry to his, all my followers are lefty progressive virtue signallers, and it would be professional death for me to support him on there. I'm not brave enough. But in case he checks this thread I want him to know that I admire his courage, and am grateful to him for his stand.

TERFragetteCity · 06/03/2018 21:24

Do men get called terfs ever or just 'supporters of terfs'?

Miranda Yardley got called a TERF last week.

holycheeseplant · 06/03/2018 21:50

Not rtf - peculiar evening arguing with a woman on twitter in complete favour of self id and trans women are women etc,

Not one bigot (though said my ideas were similar to white supremacy and religious homophobia - I pointed out race cannot be used unless you include Rachel Dolezal, and most TRA was homophobic)

We wished each other luck. Though she's still going. It was so effing complex

I have mn to thank for helping me carry what I managed of it of it.

holycheeseplant · 06/03/2018 21:51

Sorry my point is - debate with a woman was different.

Now my head hurts.

holycheeseplant · 06/03/2018 21:53

It was on an Owen tweet that went off on a tangent...

SmurfOrTerf · 06/03/2018 21:54

Morris Wine

holycheeseplant · 06/03/2018 21:57

Reading the thread - one of those OJ tweets.

holycheeseplant · 06/03/2018 22:01

Oh yes. I was told that - "you know that certainty that you're a woman? That's what trans women feel"

That gave me the rage. And we did have uterus, amenorrhoea, infertility bingo.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 06/03/2018 22:03

I like 'spunktrumpet'

BarrackerBarmer · 06/03/2018 22:09

All this wonderful rage!

I am much cheerier today. Lovely venting thread.

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SemaMjinga · 06/03/2018 22:13

you know that certainty that you're a woman? That's what trans women feel

But it really isnt though. Because my certainty comes from periods and pregnancies and miscarriages and giving birth and breast feeding and endometriosis

colouringinagain · 06/03/2018 22:14

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thebewilderness · 06/03/2018 22:17

I resent the hell out of women being considered failed men. Women are not failed men and failed men are not women.

Lottapianos · 06/03/2018 22:20

'You are the Quality Street of human beings. You used to be ace and now YOU ARE SHIT. '

Love this. Fabulous.

And THANK YOU Graham Linehan. I hope other well known names with a platform are brave enough to say the same thing

And yes yes yes to THE RAGE. The Girl Guides great big fuck you statement that I read today was the most depressing thing I have read for a while

holycheeseplant · 06/03/2018 22:26

*you know that certainty that you're a woman? That's what trans women feel

But it really isnt though. Because my certainty comes from periods and pregnancies and miscarriages and giving birth and breast feeding and endometriosis*

Oh, I wasn't allowed to mention that cos it was 'biologically purist' and what about hysterectomies, pregnancy doesn't define a woman and what not.