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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Thread of RAGE

216 replies

BarrackerBarmer · 05/03/2018 23:23

Tomorrow I shall compose myself, continue speaking up, fight on, and we'll carry on getting stronger.

But I thought I would just explode my rage here, if you all don't mind, as I want to get angry tonight instead of desperate. Join me if you want to rage in company.

So.

FUCK YOU LABOUR, with your shortlists and your dismissive hatred of the female sex.

FUCK YOU, WEP, for choosing the wrong side and abandoning women this way

FUCK YOU BBC, for your biased coverage and concerted cheerleading of transing children and ignoring women

FUCK YOU ALL, you fools who aren't listening or respecting women.

You're all creating a monster and we will hit back HARD.
Our numbers are building.
We will NOT be defeated.
We keep fighting
We keep growing.

I AM RAGING.
I WILL NOT STAND DOWN.

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qumquat · 06/03/2018 22:28

Love the Man Friday flyers! I am raging but also feel totally despairing. I'm a teacher but don't feel I can do anything to protect the children in my care because I can't afford to lose my job.

holycheeseplant · 06/03/2018 22:31

Fucking double speak.

There's 4 more replies I can't be arsed to look at. And this is a seemingly clever woman. (Admittedly I did say there was a time when I'd have agreed with her, before I truly learnt how much my/ our sex affects how my life plays out based on my sex, not gender leanings. And before at least half my friends had been through some sort of DV. I don't think she has the life experience.)

She ignored allllll my references to sport.

And a man was supporting my argument. Confused

ChocolateCoveredGrapes · 06/03/2018 22:32

You will find a way to protect the children in your care. I believe in you.

holycheeseplant · 06/03/2018 22:32

I'm a teacher but don't feel I can do anything to protect the children in my care because I can't afford to lose my job.

Challenge stereotypes when ever you can.

Lottapianos · 06/03/2018 22:33

Well, pregnancy most certainly doesn't define a woman but having FEMALE BODY PARTS does. I feel very much like a woman tonight because I am cramping in my female uterus and bleeding out of my female vagina. Nothing going on in my 'female brain' though - I don't have one because they DONT EXIST (sorry for shouting)

creaturefeatures · 06/03/2018 22:34

@Lemonjello

Have a look at Etsy for some badges...

creaturefeatures · 06/03/2018 22:37

etsy.me/2yKeoa5

Link...

creaturefeatures · 06/03/2018 22:52

An example (I have no affiliations with this seller by the way, just came across them the other day)...

The Thread of RAGE
Waddlelikeapenguin · 06/03/2018 23:14

you know that certainty that you're a woman? That's what trans women feel
Arrrggghhhh
AngryAngryAngry

Quality Street Grin

SemaMjinga · 06/03/2018 23:23

creaturefeature and lemonjello....Etsy has started removing that merchandise, for being transphobic, i believe. Im not sure if it that specific seller...see if you are able to 'add to badket'?

MsMalcontent · 06/03/2018 23:48

I have nothing to say as eloquent as others have posted.
But this fills me with rage and depression in equal measure.
I had a conversation about trans issues with a man I met recently, he instigated it for some reason. His argument wrapped me round in circles until I was literally speechless. For him - it was about winning the argument and putting me in my place. As men do.

Terftastic · 06/03/2018 23:55

God - I've only scanned the thread - will read properly tomorrow. But I'm feeling proper rage.

FUCK you, Labour.

FUCK you Owen Jones and your pathetic misogyny and lack of any insight into women's experiences, and your fucking pretend feminism.

FUCK you, WEP.

FUCK you - all you twitter middle aged men who have transitioned in your 40's and 50's having had the advantages of being male up till then --- and then having the fucking nerve to put "Men's rights activist' or similar in your bio. And re-tweet a whole load of misogynistic crap while pretending to wear "woman" like a dress. You FUCKING frauds. You interlopers. You fucking women-haters.

Labour will never get my vote again while the Maomentum bros are in charge.

Terftastic · 07/03/2018 00:00

Oh yes, and thank you to Graham Lineham, and all the other cool twitterers (including men and trans women) who have saved me from feeling I'm actually going mad with all this. And MNetters here - I love you all.

It really does feel like the flat-earthers have gained control of NASA.

terfsRus · 07/03/2018 00:24

MorrisZap fantastic post Smile

Triliteration · 07/03/2018 06:47

I’m still shaking with rage about the Daily Mail “women’s crime stats” “reporting” yesterday. I tweeted yesterday, then deleted. Now I’ve tweeted again and this time it’s staying there.

falcon5 · 07/03/2018 07:11

Appreciate I'll come over as a bit slow of thinking here but I've gone on a slow simmer since reading that thinking gender roles / behaviours are a social construct is a "radical feminist" approach. Really basically that boys can like sparkly things and ballet and girls like trucks and trees and it doesnt mean anything about them apart from they like those things. And Ive been thinking... radical? RADICAL? I thought we went through all this crap already. Used to be under the line that no it didn't mean your boy was going to be soft or gay or girlie and now it seems the box is "Actually a girl".

SemaMjinga · 07/03/2018 07:25

Yy falcon. Its NOT a RadFem perspective at all. Its what most people think. 'RadFems' are a good target though, huh...any WOMAN who raises any question about gender stereotypes DETERMINING your sex, is labelled a RadFem. I hadnt even HEARD of Radical Feminism until i was called a TERF!

Floisme · 07/03/2018 07:25

In that case I'm slow of thinking too. It's taken me ages to wake up to this but the main reason I was hanging back was, I couldn't believe people actually were saying that, if you liked lipstick and glitter, you must be a girl and, if you liked trucks, you must be a boy. I kept on thinking, there must be more to it than this, that there had to be because people just cannot be this stupid.

What's going on? Human beings are supposed to be smart. Has someone been putting stupid pills in the water?

SunsetBeetch · 07/03/2018 13:40

Miranda Yardley got called a TERF last week.

Which just shows how ridiculous TRA zealots are.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 07/03/2018 15:19

Did anyone see the post to Graham Linehan saying there's a very good reason (didn't say what) why transwomen have to be centred and transmen not?

I mean, FUCKING HELL. They actually admit it! Sorry, it really is just fucking men storming in and taking everything, isn't it?

It made me so angry seeing Linehan being repeatedly ordered to say 'transwomen are women'. Just..... FUCK OFF!

Lottapianos · 07/03/2018 15:24

'Sorry, it really is just fucking men storming in and taking everything, isn't it?'

Yep. Just a load of entitled bullying. I wish it was being called out more widely

mrsreynolds · 07/03/2018 16:15

I've made an appt at my (Tory) MPs next surgery in April.
Any points you'd like me to make?
(I've just ordered that badge from etsy btw!!)

SunsetBeetch · 07/03/2018 18:37

Glinner just retweeted Heather Brunskill Evans!

"I was going to stay out of this but fuck it, I can switch off my replies for another few days. This open letter, especially the last few paragraphs that begin "in conclusion", is where I stand on the matter of trans issues."

twitter.com/Glinner/status/971430912297783297?s=19

thecompletenonsequitur · 07/03/2018 18:50

Written a year ago, when the (now back in the pending pile) Maria Miller paper/ammendment?? was about to be put to Parliament. I think this is the right thread for it.

A Bovine “Fairytale”.

Once upon a time, in a land far far away, lived a herd of dairy cows.

Normal life happened every day. The cows went into the milking shed every morning to give milk. And again in the afternoon.

There were, and always had been, some bulls that identified as trans dairy cows, who quietly fitted in as best they could (even though their general size and body shape gave the game away somewhat). The (real) dairy cows didn’t mind as they had no reason to.

As time passed some other bulls decided that they were also trans dairy cows, particularly on Tuesdays and Fridays, when they would tie cowbells around their necks with rose pink ribbon thereby proving that they were more cow than the (real)cows. There was also a group of Wednesday and Saturday trans dairy cows who didn’t think they should have to bother with ribbons and cow bells, because not all (real) dairy cows wore them and anyway they themselves were dairy cows so didn’t have to do anything to prove it.

(I hope you are managing to follow my story dear reader. Just to be clear there are now four groups of dairy cows - 1) Biologically female dairy cows. 2) The original trans dairy cows. 3) The Tuesday and Friday trans dairy cows who like to dress the part. 4) The Wednesday and Saturday trans dairy cows who require you to understand that they are dairy cows because they say so).

(To complicate things further, there was also a lot of crossover between the Tuesday and Friday trans dairy cows and the Wednesday and Saturday trans dairy cows who would sometimes argue ferociously with each other and wind each other up about how cow they were. They did however agree that anyone who didn’t suck up their every utterance as true, was a bigot and a Terd [Trans Exclusionary Radical Dairy cow] but they only said this to biologically female cows for saying it to other bulls might have caused them injury.

(Okay, I know this is getting tedious/bonkers now, but in fact there were also Monday to Sunday trans dairy cows which were not the same as the original trans dairy cows, but who might take Thurday off to play golf at the ‘no cows aloud’ golf club. They might or might not be wearing their own teenaged daughters’ knickers under their trousers.)

The original trans dairy cows realised that they themselves weren’t actually cows at all and didn’t stomp and snort and demand to have their place at the milking machines. For they knew this was daft and indeed knew that such an action would cause hindrance to the real dairy cows who, were just trying to give milk.

The arriviste, kool, ‘woke’ trans dairy cows had something of a narcissistic trait and only wasted a little bit of time in front of the mirror before starting to throw their weight about.

These ‘transcow activists’ (TCAs) had a name for (real) dairly cows, which was fish Confused (except for the times that they were calling them terds and bigots and calling for them to ‘die in a fire you terd scum’...)

Being very well funded the TCAs set about hard core grooming the virtue signalling meejah and the Bovine Broadcasting Company and the government. All of which tried to signal their virtue harder and faster than the other - falling over themselves in their eagerness to lick the inner thrill centre of the #transcows are cows. The Bovine Broadcasting Company did not demonstrate much support for the (real) dairy cows, which baffled them, because the Bovine Broadcasting Company was supposed to be impartial. Inexplicably the Cow Equality Party appeared to yeild instantly to the TCAs which meant that cows that wanted an equality party had to find another name because the obvious one had already been misappropriated taken.

The unquestioning mantra merchants of the 'woke' zombie army at a national newspaper called The Warden (think about it) published one sided articals in blind and uncritical support of the TCAs and dripped sweat at the very idea of dissenting views being aired. Comments were heavily moderated - many commenters found themselves in a race to take a screenshot of their own comment before the mods deleted it. Another national newspaper, The Pretendent went the same way. A shame.

A cow in the government had the law of the land changed so that any that said they were a dairy cow was a dairy cow and had to be let into all the dairy cow places (and to not allow them in was against the law).

And so it began.

The real dairy cows couldn’t get into the milking shed for the volume of transcows stroking their new entitlements by occupying the milking machines - for the government cow had assurred them that it was their entiltement to take.

(It wasn’t long before you couldn’t buy a strawberry yogurt for love nor money.)

Having had their normal lives taken away from them, and in need a new direction the (real) dairy cows decided to start training for the up and coming Interfairyland Bovine Olympics ... Can you see where this is going? Yes, along came the TCAs who of course didn’t enter the bull events but rather the cow events for they were cows. For the foreseeable future, there was little point in the (real) dairy cows trying to take part in competitive sports. So they didn’t.

The actual. real. biological. dairy cows became so disillusioned that they decided to leave the land of their normal life, to see if they could get back to normal somewhere else. They invited the original trans dairy cows to come with them. The original trans dairy cows said yes. And they, along with the other bulls, ran wandered off to pastures new, leaving the TCAs, the government, the Bovine Broadcasting Company and certain other parts of the meejah behind.

The new pastures that they found were called Tranquilidad.

In Tranquilidad anyone could wear a cow bell with any colour ribbon at any time, and anyone did.

There was strawberry yogurt for everyone.

Paz y Tranquilidad

thebewilderness · 07/03/2018 18:56

falcon5
The Radical in Radical Feminism refers to Feminism focused on the root causes and structures. Dictionary definition rather than common usage as a synonym for extremist.

noun: radical; plural noun: radicals
1 a person who advocates thorough or complete political or social reform; a member of a political party or part of a party pursuing such aims.

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