The Thread of RAGE

[BarrackerBarmer]

Tomorrow I shall compose myself, continue speaking up, fight on, and we'll carry on getting stronger.

But I thought I would just explode my rage here, if you all don't mind, as I want to get angry tonight instead of desperate. Join me if you want to rage in company.

So.

FUCK YOU LABOUR, with your shortlists and your dismissive hatred of the female sex.

FUCK YOU, WEP, for choosing the wrong side and abandoning women this way

FUCK YOU BBC, for your biased coverage and concerted cheerleading of transing children and ignoring women

FUCK YOU ALL, you fools who aren't listening or respecting women.

You're all creating a monster and we will hit back HARD.
Our numbers are building.
We will NOT be defeated.
We keep fighting
We keep growing.

I AM RAGING.
I WILL NOT STAND DOWN.

Shadows

Stick around and talk. It helps with the feelings of dread. I promise. You will find support and sisterhood here.

ShadowsInTheDarkness

I’m trying to take some consolation from the fact that the public overwhelmingly seem on our side (the ones that are exposed to this nonsense anyway)

The fight is trying to get it out there to enough people before they can push anything through.

ShadowsInTheDarkness

I share your fear. Women who use mental health services know how dangerous mixed wards are. Hundreds of women commit suicide as a result of domestic violence every year, and I don't see any outcry about the death toll.

Brought this rage inducing Canadian article to the thread of rage. Happy International Non Men's Day! Enjoy :) https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-this-international-womens-day-feminists-should-finally-accept/?utmsource=Shared+Article+Sent+to+User&utmmmedium=E-mail:+Newsletters+/+E-Blasts+/+etc.&utmcampaign=Shared+Web+Article+Links

ShadowsInTheDarkness

Female socialization and how it's partially responsible for the situation we currently find ourselves in in 3 short paragraphs.

"I’m not alone in identifying the male member as the basic problem. Last June, the Toronto women’s spa Body Blitz told a potential client that trans women wanting to visit must have had gender reassignment surgery. I immediately found this unfair – while also understanding that the sight of a penis in a space reserved for women could be unexpected, even unappealing.

Bothered by the gap between my ideals and my discomfort, I considered the warmth and simple humanity of many trans women I’ve met. I thought not just about their traumas, but also how much they might enjoy the spa’s lovely water circuit, let alone a chance to feel recognized.

I realized I had to get over it: A penis is no big deal. Beyond that, demanding that anyone have surgery to be considered a real woman runs counter to every feminist ideal of informed, empowered choice. "

I have no intention of attempting to brainwash myself into thinking that a penis is "no big deal". It is a big deal, in fact whether or not you have one has a massive impact on how your life will play out, and women who're alarmed by the sight on one in what they thought was a women only space should not be expected to "get over" that reaction. There are plenty of other places where someone with a penis can enjoy the comfort of being in water.

Yes it's basically, "I forgot to put men first briefly, then I thought they would enjoy a nice spa and regained my senses. Like me, all women need to work on their feelings. Men don't"

told a potential client that trans women wanting to visit must have had gender reassignment surgery.

This is loaded as well. They didn't say as she is implying, "sucks to be you, sorry about your dick, come back when you've had it removed". They said that they accepted post op TIMs into this nude spa, but not penis bearing ones. For the comfort and dignity of the women who the spa was intended for.

I am slowly coming to realise that my Canadian friend is as gender critical as one is allowed to be in Canada. She re-tweeted something about terfs and I very cautiously said "you might find your friends class me as one because I think there's circumstances where biology matters." She replied that this was probably because I was a grown up who was capable of framing a nuanced argument.

It's only as I've come to realise how far down the rabbit hole Canada has gone that this was probably tantamount to her screaming from the rooftops "I see it too. It's crazy. There's no such thing as lady peen!"

Ive done it! All the supportive replies yesterday and another thread this morning pushed me into action and I have just emailed my MP. Its amazing how such a small step can make such a difference to how I feel but it has; I feel like Im maybe not so powerless after all!

I love mumsnet, that feeling of belonging and support, women coming together and rallying to a cause. Thank you to everyone for posting and commenting on these invaluable threads 💐

So now women are transphobic for not lifting up the fucking toilet seat?!!!!!!!!!

I have this debate/argument/screaming match on a regular basis at home

Seat down

End of...

I'd have ripped that poster down and shived it somewhere

Well done shadows

Hello,

I've been a lurker on mumsnet for ages, but I am in need of rage support. So I've come to a place where I feel I can speak.

I sent a resignation to my local Labour party rep yesterday. I outlined my reasons why - the self-ID shit. I gave examples, Lily M, Angela Rayner, being called TERFs for daring to challenge things.

He basically told me I had no evidence to defend the action and paranoid (he didn't use that word, but that's what was meant).

I'm in the middle of feeling 'whatever' vs. wanting to kick his fucking head in.

Please hold my soft girlie hand before I cry.

imnolaidee
Hello and welcome.
Thats terrible. What an idiot. Obviously on the defensive though.

Thanks for the welcome Freshlylaidterf (love your moniker, made me laugh)

Yep, defensive alrighty.

Thankfully, we have mumsnet as a screaming chamber.

Note sure how to vote now though...christ, what a mess

Cheers! Yep a messier mess I cannot recall in all my years of rad feming! Just got to keep pushing on doing what we can.

Yep, same here. I was involved in left wing movements in the early 80s. It was pretty sexist within even the most left of them. But that was back then. You'd hope after all these years of feminism it'd have improved.

Can you remember the SCUM manifesto, is it still going?

But then no, it is not about removing a thin cultural layer; this is deep seated resource control - and women are the resources.

My rage continues unabated.

Feck, I hate feeling like this.

Joined mumsnet despite not being a mum purely to join in the rage! I'm of the libfem generation but at raging at what's happening and how misogyny is seen as 'ok' if even a hint of trans or 'sex work' is involved. The disgust shown towards older women that's nothing but ageism and misogyny.
I'm raging I can't talk about my body without having to 'trigger warn' about it or to divorce it from femaleness, that I can't associate my entire lived experience as a female with being a woman aka an adult human female or risk being cast as a 'terf' and thus 'the worst'. I'm raging that actual violence against women is excused because 'terfs are nazis'.
I'm raging I can't talk openly about this as bullying (disguised as 'calling out') is now accepted as long as the person is a 'bigot'.

Feeling the pain with you Vaginaperson.

And thanks for bringing up the older woman thing.I have been told we are 'old school' and don't understand. Nothing to do with the fact we have lived a life and experienced the worst of sexism.

I mentioned the menopause the other day to a colleague (male) who warned me not to use that word in public forums - yes, he actually said that.

I also feel I can only talk about this under a pseudonym. Crazy, mad.

OP - I think we may need a 'Day of Rage'

Joined mumsnet despite not being a mum purely to join in the rage!

You do not have to be a mum to be here.

Finally the tables are starting to turn:

I agree with you on every word OP.

I voted labour last time but they have lost my support.

There’s no way DD will join the guiding association if their erosion of safeguarding continues.

There are so many people in this country determined to show how cool and inclusive they are with no regard for women. Blind stupidity. It’s terrifying

I channeled my rage into laughing at Lily...