Does the fact that MTFs are victimizers in these obscenely violent criminal acts more frequently than they are victims change how lawmakers will see their claims of eternal victimhood? I doubt it. How many male murderers will have to be given elective surgery at taxpayer expense and housed with women (far less likely to be in prison for violent crime) before someone takes a long, hard look at the reality of the situation?

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LangCleg · 15/10/2018 10:41

Thanks for your analysis lang. It's always absolutely invaluable.

Twitter extremist transactivism is just one big Duluth wheel if you ask me.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 15/10/2018 10:42

Ah. I didn't know that. I just thought that they stopped posting.

LemonJello · 15/10/2018 11:24

I know it’s wrong to gloat but it’s so satisfying that I didn’t get a single deletion while F4 got at least 4 and then banned.

We have reason and logic.

They have Nazi’s, Unitas, imprisonment, insults, marooning on an island, and despicable lies about their non existent child.

This thread shows the contrasts very nicely.

LemonJello · 15/10/2018 11:25

Unitas 😂 I meant uboats

Datun · 15/10/2018 11:49

I know it’s wrong to gloat but it’s so satisfying that I didn’t get a single deletion while F4 got at least 4 and then banned.

We have reason and logic.

I agree completely with people like Barracker that not being able to use the correct pronouns skews your perception. But, given the constraints, I think it's entirely possible to to say exactly what you need to say. It takes longer, but it's doable.

And yes the banning 'giveaway'. It's incredibly useful. I don't want HQ to change it though, which is why I like to keep it on the qt.

AngryAttackKittens · 15/10/2018 11:56

Do we know what name they were using last time?

There's something unsettling about that level of obsession. When a person is banned multiple times and comes back, lies, openly admits that they want women who disagree with them imprisoned, and then lies about the rape of a child, at a certain point you're pretty clearly in personality disorder territory.

Datun · 15/10/2018 12:05

I agree kitten. Mental health issues.

But deciding that men with gender dysphoria will lead to a complete dismantling of sex categories and the pretence that the penis is a female organ, is a mental disorder.

AngryAttackKittens · 15/10/2018 12:07

At what point are we allowed to admit that there's a fairly consistent pattern of pathology here among a certain section of the TRA movement?

Trousered · 15/10/2018 13:44

I think the psychiatric and judicial experts have long known about the pathology.

It is bizarre that we are expected not to mention it here. Well it's not bizzare given that the entire objective of the Stonewall driven movement is the sanitisation of fetish in all areas of pubic life, schools, work, leisure, everywhere.

MonsterSister · 15/10/2018 16:13

fetish in all areas of pubic life just made me laugh, Trousered!

arranfan · 19/10/2018 09:00

Independent article with the inappropriate statistics that is much cited upthread (and corrected by other posters) has now been the cause of an apology, acknowledgment of defamation, and out of court settlement to FPFW:

twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1053033005021847553

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398870-Independent-newspaper-makes-out-of-court-settlement-to-Fair-Play-For-Women

Datun · 19/10/2018 09:45

That is fantastic news.

Everyone knew Nic was right. The fact they dragged her over the coals with their aggressive tactics speaks volumes for the gender critical argument.

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Number of trans people who are murderers is greater than the number of trans people who are murder victims in UK **Title amended by MNHQ**

Number of trans people who are murderers is greater than the number of trans people who are murder victims in UK Title amended by MNHQ