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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Secret Militant Feminist Agenda

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 28/09/2010 21:04

...what is it then? I keep reading about it as a reason for us all Lying Our Terrible Lies about being harrassed in the street, or beaten up at home or what have you.

It's making me feel a bit left out TBH.

Can someone drop me a hint about why we're talking about these things, given that they cannot be true in the egalitarian paradise in which we live?

Code is permitted.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 02/10/2010 00:55

Erm ...yep, think so.

Think you win the Golden Dworkin 2010.

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MrsFlittersnoop · 02/10/2010 00:55

Lawdy me Elephants, only in Brighton eh?

And no, I am no-one's MIL. No women will EVER be good enough for my DS. He will stay at home and look after his old mum.

blackcurrants · 02/10/2010 00:59

Yes, yes, the golden Dworkin. It's shaped like a cervix. Hurrah! Would you like to thank the academy? Or just Gawd? Gawd gets thanked a LOT at the oscars. I sometimes wonder if he's a casting agent over there.

I never got the point of dungarees. They're associated, for me, with being quite little and struggling to get them off when I needed the loo. But if they're a requirement of the revolution then I shall don them with pride!

And no, Mrs F is most definitely not my MIL. But it would be cool-to-the-power-of-petrifying if she were on here.

[looks furtive]

MrsFlittersnoop · 02/10/2010 01:02

Will I be stripped of my Dworkin if the truth about my 1981 expulsion from the Leicester University Wimmin's Conciousness Raising Group were to come out?

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 02/10/2010 01:35

Like a cervix eh? Does that mean we can use it for hoopla during the breaks in the revolution?

You have to thank Maud, according to I Blame The Patriarchy (god maud I love that site).

For some reason I imagine an MN-based Feminist Militant revolution would be slanket-clad, possibly with some kind of hitching buckle to hold them off the ground when we charge.

Noooo course not MrsF ...why? :o

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MrsFlittersnoop · 02/10/2010 02:06

Sigh.

As the youngest of only 2 actively heterosexual members of the group I was a sitting duck. My conciousness, far from being raised, was around my ankles so to speak. I was not only Sleeping with the Enemy, I was LIVING with one. And he was a medical student - a trainee member of the oppressive patriarchal elite.

Pecking order went thus:

Political Lesbians were at top of food chain. These were hetero gals who chose to sleep with other women (even though they didn't really fancy them much) on grounds of right-on-ness.

Next came Lesbians who actually WERE Lesbian by inclination.

Then the celibates - straight wimmin who chose not to sleep with men, but couldn't quite bring themselves to sip from the furry cup instead, although they received LOTS of encouragement from groups 1 and 2 to give it a whirl.

Then the straight girls who didn't have a boyfriend, but were secretly desparate for one.

Then came our only mum. She was a mature student who had given birth twice, and therefore had a level of credibility in the womanhood stakes which none of us could aspire to, and which meant her married status and Catholicism were discreetly overlooked.

I lurked at the bottom of the heap. I was asked to leave for (gasp!) "Talking about Men Too Much".

The woman (group 1 political type)who phoned me to deliver the coup de grace is actually quite a well known personage now in certain musical circles. She has been married and divorced twice and has 2 kids, so I guess it was just a "phase" Hmm.

I heard her being interviewed on Radio 4 a while back, talking about her music, which is incidentally, utter utter shite.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 02/10/2010 02:11

Ahahahahaha - what were you saying about men?

You have to name names now MrsF, or at least give whacking great obvious subtle clues.

Political lesbianism is taking it a bit far, wouldn't mind being a celibate lesbian with Bert and Ernie style twin beds (if anyone's free? :o)

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MrsFlittersnoop · 02/10/2010 02:22

ACtually, I suspect I only joined the group so I could winge about my boyfriend (no Mumsnet back then).

She is the daughter of a fairly well-known
singer/songwriter of the folk/protest/activist ilk, and has the same surname. She also claims to be a High Priestess of Santeria.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 02/10/2010 02:48

You've got me stumped there. Can only think of Billy Bragg and Dick Gaughan, and, erm, Donovan.

Tell me you dumped him?

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MrsFlittersnoop · 02/10/2010 10:54

Oooh yes. He was dumped.

Donovan era is right. Clue: "This is the Week that Was".

You're unlikely to identify him without some serious Googling. Not mainstream, but very much of his time. Also writes children's books.

dittany · 02/10/2010 11:55

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MrsFlittersnoop · 02/10/2010 20:33

Wonderful thought Dittany, but sadly, no.
My lips are sealed.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 02/10/2010 23:35

You big tease! No wonder you wound the lesbians up. :o

Anyway, come on we need more suggestions.

What about "high heel" converters, which you can put in your H/P's shoes if he moans about you only looking "elegant" in heels. Slot them into a normal pair of shoes or trainers, and he too can experience all the agony of stilettos.

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TheButterflyEffect · 03/10/2010 10:06

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MrsFlittersnoop · 03/10/2010 13:13

Likewise, ButterflyEffect.

Guys found that look quite appealing back in the day. I guess they assumed they had a better chance of scoring with us "liberated" types than the Laura Ashley clad brigade. Can't say I disagree either Blush.

sethstarkaddersmum · 03/10/2010 13:19

high heel converters sound good.

but really they ought to just make simple, straightforward, high heeled shoes for men - eg brogues, in normal office colours like black and oxblood but with a 3 inch heel so men can share the empowerment that us lucky women get to enjoy.

TheButterflyEffect · 03/10/2010 21:22

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 03/10/2010 21:43

OMG

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MrsFlittersnoop · 03/10/2010 22:11

Nowt new under the sun! Grin

Might have guessed some bloke would have got in there first, but it hasn't really caught on, has it?

Sethstarkaddersmum - make them 4" heels for extra empowerment - more is better, surely?

Rather OT I know (it's late) but nyone else read Victoria Cohen HERE today on just how empowering a school sport Cheerleading is for our daughters?

"They aren't doing sport. They are waggling their arses near boys who are doing sport. The boys are motivated to compete harder and triumph in the subliminal (or not so subliminal) hope that they'll get first pick of these little minxes on the sidelines. Even if you don't think it's sexual ? and I do; I think these girls might as well be bent over a rock, waiting to be mounted by whichever caveman gets back first with a rabbit in his hand ? at best, their job is to support the action rather than take part in it."

I'm starting to like this girl!

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 03/10/2010 22:18

I love her

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MrsFlittersnoop · 03/10/2010 22:25

Ooops! Just seen other long thread on topic... Blush

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 10/10/2010 18:47

Oh dear, this is dropping off my radar, and I see the prime minister, leader of the opposition, archbishop of canterbury, President of the USA, Secretary General of the UN etc are still penis-humans....I have a feeling the tasks on the agenda have not yet been completed!

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EvilAntsAndMiasmas · 19/10/2010 14:39

LRD......owls?

LeninGhoul · 19/10/2010 15:41

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