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Human being diet

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crazysausagespart2 · 09/01/2023 20:03

Is anyone else doing this? I started on Saturday (a little later than my planned 1st Jan start as I was skiing). So today I completed my first day of the 14 day phase 2.

I took the salts on Saturday but they didn't kick in until the evening so kids bedtime was fun.

I ate vegetables all weekend, drank black tea and coffee.

Today I have had:
B - Blueberries and Greek yogurt
L - Spicy mince with mushrooms, peppers and salad with ACV
D - 2 egg omelette with mushrooms and peppers and some cucumber and dessert was steamed apple sprinkled with cinnamon.

I have been sipping on fruit tea through the day (which I think is allowed).

I weighed in this morning and have lost 4 1/2 pounds so far - 148.8lbs starting weight and now am 144.5. So we will see how the weigh ins go...

Honestly I don't feel hungry, if I was to snack now it would be because of boredom rather than hunger which is why I'm planning to take myself to bed soon.

I'm really hoping to keep this up and complete all the phases but I would love to have a buddy? Is anyone else on the HBD wagon?

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Z0rr0 · 28/02/2024 20:38

@ItsNotEasyBeingGreens I can't be arsed to cook as much as the HBD Insta people do, so I am mostly just cooking veg in the microwave or maybe stir frying with a little olive oil. I've started buying a couple of sauces to liven things up a bit, providing they're low calorie.
I was doing Noom before which is calorie counting and the salad portions which I mostly ate were huge with quite small protein because there's no calories in salad.
This is the opposite. As it's done on weight rather than calories, I found the protein portions much larger than what I had been eating, but the veg portions tiny. 130g of veg is nothing, sadly.
But I've also had much more success so far on this and I think it's because of her pointing out that veg are carbs and my PCOS body has always struggled with carbs.
I don't eat meat so my meals are generally yoghurt and berries for breakfast, eggs with veg for lunch and then some sort of fish with veg for dinner, plus my apple.
Or maybe tuna or cheese salad instead of eggs.
Not massively inspired but quick and easy to prepare.

Ginthing · 28/02/2024 20:52

@ItsNotEasyBeingGreens you soon learn which veg weighs more than others! If you had avocado in the salad, that could be up to 80g, add tomatoes (up to 30g which is generally about two baby ones!) that only leaves 20g for the leaves. It’s not much!
There are loads of good cooks on the Instagram group, who post a ton of good recipe idea's but I tend to keep things fairly basic. Eggs, mushrooms and spinach for breakfast. Or boiled eggs and asparagus. Prawns salad and avocado for lunch. Or salmon. And then maybe a stir fry in the evening. It’s more about the planning than the actual cooking. Happy to give you more ideas if you come unstuck.

Ginthing · 28/02/2024 21:08

@KatrinawavesThank you. I think you may be more disciplined than me. Which is probably why I’m in this state now! With the best will in the world, I know that when the high days and holidays come along I will fully embrace each and every one of them. But I will take on board that I can try and make more HBD friendly choices whilst doing that. Just hoping the general trend down continues, even if it is incredibly slowly. I’ll check in with the damage when I’m back from the first holiday. It might hold me a bit more accountable!

ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 28/02/2024 21:48

CEJ1836 · 28/02/2024 20:16

Sorry I sounded a bit negative. Finding it very hard compared to IF but I guess if I hadn’t plateaued I wouldn’t be trying HBD

Not at all, I definitely get it!

ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 29/02/2024 04:28

Ginthing · 28/02/2024 20:52

@ItsNotEasyBeingGreens you soon learn which veg weighs more than others! If you had avocado in the salad, that could be up to 80g, add tomatoes (up to 30g which is generally about two baby ones!) that only leaves 20g for the leaves. It’s not much!
There are loads of good cooks on the Instagram group, who post a ton of good recipe idea's but I tend to keep things fairly basic. Eggs, mushrooms and spinach for breakfast. Or boiled eggs and asparagus. Prawns salad and avocado for lunch. Or salmon. And then maybe a stir fry in the evening. It’s more about the planning than the actual cooking. Happy to give you more ideas if you come unstuck.

Thanks, that's reassuring! There are some amazing cooks on there and it's slightly intimidating! That does make sense with the weights too. I suppose I just need to get started and hopefully it will become easier.

I keep wondering if I'm starting something really faddy, but I need to do something and figure out which things are making me feel a bit rubbish, and there seem to be so many converts to it?!

ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 29/02/2024 04:29

Z0rr0 · 28/02/2024 20:38

@ItsNotEasyBeingGreens I can't be arsed to cook as much as the HBD Insta people do, so I am mostly just cooking veg in the microwave or maybe stir frying with a little olive oil. I've started buying a couple of sauces to liven things up a bit, providing they're low calorie.
I was doing Noom before which is calorie counting and the salad portions which I mostly ate were huge with quite small protein because there's no calories in salad.
This is the opposite. As it's done on weight rather than calories, I found the protein portions much larger than what I had been eating, but the veg portions tiny. 130g of veg is nothing, sadly.
But I've also had much more success so far on this and I think it's because of her pointing out that veg are carbs and my PCOS body has always struggled with carbs.
I don't eat meat so my meals are generally yoghurt and berries for breakfast, eggs with veg for lunch and then some sort of fish with veg for dinner, plus my apple.
Or maybe tuna or cheese salad instead of eggs.
Not massively inspired but quick and easy to prepare.

Thank you! That's a really good point about it being sort of the opposite of some other eating plans. I tried Noom but couldn't get on with it, I maybe wasn't in the right frame of mind. I've been doing a bit of low carb but I can eat way too many calories doing that and just don't lose anything. Oh well - here goes!

ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 29/02/2024 04:31

It's good to have somewhere to chat about it though, I do like the Insta community and great for inspiration but I struggle a bit with where I'd ask general questions as not really a person who would post pictures of their meals, or myself!

Lazydaiz · 29/02/2024 07:24

I struggle to get to sleep if I’m feeling hungry, so have increased the amount of veg I’m eating with my evening meal. I’m sure my weight loss will be a lot slower, but I think it means I’m more likely to stick to it. Also hoping it will help with constipation (sorry too much information!) which I’ve never experienced before starting HBD. I’m on P3 D3 and can’t decide whether I’m looking forward to or dreading my treat meal tomorrow in case it makes me loose all willpower to carry on! Good luck to everyone starting out. It definitely does get easier.

CEJ1836 · 29/02/2024 08:14

Lazydaiz · 29/02/2024 07:24

I struggle to get to sleep if I’m feeling hungry, so have increased the amount of veg I’m eating with my evening meal. I’m sure my weight loss will be a lot slower, but I think it means I’m more likely to stick to it. Also hoping it will help with constipation (sorry too much information!) which I’ve never experienced before starting HBD. I’m on P3 D3 and can’t decide whether I’m looking forward to or dreading my treat meal tomorrow in case it makes me loose all willpower to carry on! Good luck to everyone starting out. It definitely does get easier.

My sleep has been terrible this week. Can’t get to sleep and waking up a lot. I’ll keep persevering as scales were 2.5lb lighter this morning which obviously makes our days and why we are doing this!!

Ginthing · 29/02/2024 09:27

ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 29/02/2024 04:31

It's good to have somewhere to chat about it though, I do like the Insta community and great for inspiration but I struggle a bit with where I'd ask general questions as not really a person who would post pictures of their meals, or myself!

You’ll not find a single picture of me or a meal on there unless I’m asking a question. Actually I might have put one up of some cherries and yogurt, in the early days, dipping my toe in the water. Can’t be faffing around with the pics when I’m starving! Things I have done this time that I’ve never embraced before are taking pre start measurements and keeping a food diary. I’m keeping the diary so that when I get in a real rut food wise I can flick back and see what I’ve eaten. But I normally am a day or two behind in logging my meals so it’s a bit hap hazard.

Ginthing · 29/02/2024 09:40

ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 29/02/2024 04:28

Thanks, that's reassuring! There are some amazing cooks on there and it's slightly intimidating! That does make sense with the weights too. I suppose I just need to get started and hopefully it will become easier.

I keep wondering if I'm starting something really faddy, but I need to do something and figure out which things are making me feel a bit rubbish, and there seem to be so many converts to it?!

It does sound incredibly faffy when you try and explain it to someone else. I try and avoid discussing it for that reason. But honestly when you pare it back it’s pretty straightforward. 5 hours between meals, no snacking including any tea and coffee, one apple a day after a meal, 100g of protein and carbs at breakfast and 130g at lunch and dinner. Some ACV and some EVOO. I know there are other rules but those are the basics once you get into the longer P3. And the results of the instagrammers
seem to speak for themselves. They really keep me on track. There’s loads of them, and they all look great. Can’t all be friends and family!

Beanie345 · 29/02/2024 09:55

Are we allowed dairy in Phase 2? I’ve avoided it for 10 days now but I’d love my kefir and yogurt back

CEJ1836 · 29/02/2024 13:34

Beanie345 · 29/02/2024 09:55

Are we allowed dairy in Phase 2? I’ve avoided it for 10 days now but I’d love my kefir and yogurt back

My understanding is that you can have yoghurt at breakfast. And I think it’s 160g which is a nice amount. Some have it with their daily apple but stewed for a bit and cinnamon sprinkled on top. Im looking forward to this one

CEJ1836 · 29/02/2024 13:35

Fruit. I understand the apple but when can we have fruit in other meals? Is this in addition to everything else??

Ginthing · 29/02/2024 14:57

CEJ1836 · 29/02/2024 13:35

Fruit. I understand the apple but when can we have fruit in other meals? Is this in addition to everything else??

You can have 100g of fruit with your yogurt or nuts /seeds etc at breakfast. I do that and save my apple for after dinner. You can also have fruit as an extra after meals - the advice is to try and hold it back for desperate days! But I’m guessing maybe only once a day. So if you had eggs at breakfast you could say have 100g of fruit after one of your meals and also your apple, but after a different meal, under the not mixing your fruits rule. Fruit is a problem for me, so I’m trying not to get too involved with that caveat

ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 29/02/2024 22:00

I really enjoyed my P1 D1 apple and seeds this morning! I’m lazy so lunch has been two eggs, 80g of avocado and chopped cabbage / carrot for the rest. And a coffee. I might go with the cherries tomorrow morning, but they’re frozen and I need to get the book out again and check the weights for frozen versus cooked food. That’s the bit I’m finding a bit faffy and the book is kind of wordy for quick checks, I wish there were just some easy cheat sheets, I think I’m going to have to make my own!

I also saw that she talks about the fruit being perhaps not so great if your primary aim is weight loss, so I don’t know about that. I guess I’ll see.

How has everyone else’s day gone?

Katrinawaves · 29/02/2024 22:29

There are easier to follow cheat sheets in the recipe book for each phase if you have that one. I agree the main book is hard to navigate when you just want a quick answer

Katrinawaves · 29/02/2024 22:36

For example these are the cheat sheets for Phase 2

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ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 29/02/2024 23:14

Katrinawaves · 29/02/2024 22:36

For example these are the cheat sheets for Phase 2

Oh those look perfect, thank you! I have the recipe book on the way so that’s good to know.

Ginthing · 01/03/2024 08:31

ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 29/02/2024 22:00

I really enjoyed my P1 D1 apple and seeds this morning! I’m lazy so lunch has been two eggs, 80g of avocado and chopped cabbage / carrot for the rest. And a coffee. I might go with the cherries tomorrow morning, but they’re frozen and I need to get the book out again and check the weights for frozen versus cooked food. That’s the bit I’m finding a bit faffy and the book is kind of wordy for quick checks, I wish there were just some easy cheat sheets, I think I’m going to have to make my own!

I also saw that she talks about the fruit being perhaps not so great if your primary aim is weight loss, so I don’t know about that. I guess I’ll see.

How has everyone else’s day gone?

Edited

My food diary has a page covered in post it notes full of cheat facts at the front of it, that I’ve jotted down as I’ve come across them in the books. For frozen berries give yourself an extra 10g so breakfast will be 110g

ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 02/03/2024 04:33

@Ginthing that’s a good idea, I keep taking screenshots and saving Instagram posts and then forgetting where they are. I think I just need to go back to basics!

LBMCR · 02/03/2024 11:15

Hey everyone, I started P3 yesterday! So happy to have made it through P2 but then also daunted that this phase is 10 weeKs min 😂. I’ve lost 10 lbs.

I'm having my treat meal tonight and I could not pick what I wanted as I’ve missed so much. I’m having some crisps & dip to start, lamb barbacoa tacos, a bit of a Tony’s chocoloney bar and 2 large reds!

For breakfast I either have 2 eggs with avo & spinach or yog & frozen berries. Lunch tuna, salmon or cheese with salad. Dinners mostly been having chicken with veg or salad. I have made a no bean chilli I saw on insta.

I have just bought some lentil pasta as you can have 80g of this in place of protein. Also bought some 100% olive oil mayo to try

CEJ1836 · 02/03/2024 16:45

LBMCR · 02/03/2024 11:15

Hey everyone, I started P3 yesterday! So happy to have made it through P2 but then also daunted that this phase is 10 weeKs min 😂. I’ve lost 10 lbs.

I'm having my treat meal tonight and I could not pick what I wanted as I’ve missed so much. I’m having some crisps & dip to start, lamb barbacoa tacos, a bit of a Tony’s chocoloney bar and 2 large reds!

For breakfast I either have 2 eggs with avo & spinach or yog & frozen berries. Lunch tuna, salmon or cheese with salad. Dinners mostly been having chicken with veg or salad. I have made a no bean chilli I saw on insta.

I have just bought some lentil pasta as you can have 80g of this in place of protein. Also bought some 100% olive oil mayo to try

That is amazing. I’m p2 day 4 and feeling better by the day. Not going to weigh myself until Thursday. Can’t imagine having a treat meal. Wouldn’t know where to start. It definitely works for those who persevere. Enjoy your treat tonight. Intrigued by the lentil pasta!!

Z0rr0 · 04/03/2024 07:49

Think I'm going to have to rethink my P3 as I am now two weeks in and no further weight loss (although no gain either). Might go back to fat free yoghurt as I still feel full on that but it's a lot less calories. Definitely need to get more exercise in my schedule.
Not exactly sure why it's stalled as I'm not really cheating.
A bit frustrating.

Ginthing · 04/03/2024 12:59

Z0rr0 · 04/03/2024 07:49

Think I'm going to have to rethink my P3 as I am now two weeks in and no further weight loss (although no gain either). Might go back to fat free yoghurt as I still feel full on that but it's a lot less calories. Definitely need to get more exercise in my schedule.
Not exactly sure why it's stalled as I'm not really cheating.
A bit frustrating.

That’s frustrating! Have you checked your measurements? You might be loosing inches but not scale weight. Any other NSV’s? I continue to loose and regain the same 3lbs, but I know why. Too off the charts at weekends!