Mounjaro 10st (or more) to lose Thread 9

[TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne]

We're all getting there.
Even if it's very slow now.

Welcome back to the thread regulars and hello to anyone who would like to join us.

@diggitydoo its very easy, especially in the early days, for this to be all consuming. This is one of the main reasons why I don’t count calories as it just makes me miserable and obsessive. I believe that 99% of us here have had the feelings that you are experiencing now, but trust me in knowing you will eventually relax and it will become normal. You’ve lots of exciting things ahead of you, the feeling you get from the NSVs along the way are so uplifting. And yay to the pesky kilo!

Thank you for understanding.

about 15 years ago I managed to loose about 5 stone ( from 20 to 14 ish ) so I do remember some of this. The thing is that I found it so difficult and misery making and ultimately set me off on years of poor mental health and eating disorder like behaviour around food. So I don’t actually remember it fondly. It’s been a long journey of accepting myself as I am, fat and all , to be able to exist in my body. I really actually don’t want to do this. If it wasn’t for my health worries and my knees then I wouldn’t. So I don’t really feel that exited about losing weight, and the aesthetic side of it. I just want to be able to walk and not die young like my mum.

I actually so wish I didn’t have to have a body atall.

does anyone know of any specialist mental health support that understands all these issues? I started counselling a couple of weeks ago hoping it would help me through this bit and it hasn’t.

would you guys mind if I talk here? I’m just so full of thought and emotions and I don’t feel I can tell anyone on my life because of this massive edifice of acceptance and confidence I’ve built around me. Opening up to anyone feels like admitting that it’s all built on shaky foundations of shame, fear and self loathing.

My husband knows more the anyone else, but he doesn’t really get it. He tries, but he isn’t wired like me. He does live me unconditionally though, which is something I didn’t have the last time I tried to do this. So that’s good.

I’m so desperate for some proper understanding knowledgable support though! I’ve even been talking to ChatGPT! Which surprisingly has been pretty good and has at least stopped some google spirals and binges , but it does feel really fucking desperate and weird!

so if it’s a choice between talking to a robot and talking to some people on the internet, I choose you guys! Is that ok?

You are very welcome here with us. Share away. I also use Chat GPT and find it so useless for unpacking things and behaviours.

I had 0 motivation to change how I look. It Is so deeply ingrained in me how much I hate myself that it'll never change. It's the main reason I've avoided showers, and never get fully naked at the same time unless in there, even dressing or in bed. I just can't stand the sight of myself.

But what did motivate me was my son... I wanted to be around to help him ease into adulthood. And I wanted to walk my dogs with my wife; 5 years we've had them and never done it. Now we can do it all the time and every hard won pound I lost has been worth it for an hour spent out in the cold holding a dog lead each.

Hi @diggitydoo we talk on this thread about all kinds of things. This is a really supportive space because we all understand the challenges we're going through.
Please feel free to bring any subject up that you'd like to discuss. We get it. We know what it's like.

BTW I also don't count calories and I've lost 8st 6lb in 23 months. I'm very happy with this, and I've got just over a stone to go. Actually I could stop now as I'm a size 12 in jeans (down from a size 24) and a size 8 - 10 in jumpers. My bra size is down from 44K to 36H.

I'd like to continue losing weight because I think that my legs are still fat. I used to have gorgeous legs! But the rest of me is okay, I think.

@diggitydoo If it helps, ChatGPT is essentially summarising and presenting in dialogue form, information which was originally written by humans. If it comes to any conclusions, that's based on information provided by people, and reasoning skills from its programming that was created by humans. I don't think it's weird to use it, no more than doing an internet search for the same information.

I think that most of us here on this thread who started off with 10st or more to lose are mainly concerned with health and mobility more than the aesthetics of it. It's taken me by surprise a little, now I've lost more than 10st, that I am gradually starting to like what I look like (clothed!), as well as appreciating the health and fitness improvements. Those were my main NSVs that I wanted, rather than dress size or even a particular weight. Apart from when I moved from the obese category into "just" the overweight category, as no longer being regarded as medically obese was a huge change for me.

I think this thread is really meant for us to talk about these things that not many people will understand, with other people who have been there and have had the same experiences. I don't speak to anyone in real life about my weight, not really even my DP who has seen me go up from around 11.5st to 22st and now back down again.

Is the counselling specifically around body image, or is it a more general approach?

@diggitydoo If you can’t open up here then there’s something off with this group, this is the kindest most supportive thread there is on Mumsnet so please don’t hold back. My personal story is similar around the shame and self loathing that was ingrained into me by my mother, the disordered eating, restricting food for days then binging on top of trying to manage emotions.

I have a husband who loves me unconditionally at any size but I get it when you say ‘he doesn’t get it’. He doesn’t understand why I don’t love myself as much as he does, this last couple of months has seen me naked in front of him for the first time in the 40 years we’ve been together, I would flinch when he touched me as I hated myself so much. But to people on the outside I would come across as ‘this is me, this is who I am and if you don’t like me you can f**k off, whilst on the inside I’m dying with shame.

I talk to Claude ai (free through work) all the time - felt weird at first but normal now!

My main motivation has been my health, we are planning an early retirement and going off to travel Europe, I couldn’t even visualise doing it at over 20 stone, now I can and it’s really freeing to finally feel ‘normal’.

so yes, of course it’s ok!

Thank you everyone for the understanding, but so sorry that you all understand.

It’s General counselling, but I think the counsellor was rubbish so I’ve asked for a new one after two sessions. Got another 4 sessions free from my work, and maybe it’ll be a better counsellor. But ultimately I’d like some specialist support. Although no idea how to get it and won’t be able to afford it with the cost of the mounjaro.

so you and chatgt have me I’m afraid . Apologies in advance!

Oh god, YES! My tailbone is so painful at times! I’m looking at cushions but want something a bit portable or that folds up. But OMG, absolutely with you on the bony arse. The struggle is real!!

I got this, bought it from Tesco as they had it in stock https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChsSEwjPv_y6w_yQAxUMiFAGHYj4GikYACICCAEQFBoCZGc&co=1&ase=2&gclid=CjwKCAiAz_DIBhBJEiwAVH2XwETZ62vxrEE2xv32KKdhCkeuQvh410bCQg6Ii76AgPEVX4YQfstDDBoCJhgQAvD_BwE&cce=2&category=acrcp_v1_33&sig=AOD64_29gxrQmBtKhFv9zyR6_kj0F8Mb-g&ctype=5&q=&nis=4&ved=2ahUKEwiPpfe6w_yQAxWAU0EAHUlmDs0Q9aACKAB6BAgJEBE&adurl=
My butt also itches at times on the outside, but yeah the tailbone pressure is really relieved by the cushion on my work chair.

I read an interesting article in one of the papers today. Apparently high end tailors are seeing the impact of GLP1 injections. Clients are getting measured for suits then coming back 3 months later a different shape. It isnt a case of taking a suit in by an inch or two. It has to be remade.

At a much simpler level I am seeing the same thing with my own sewing. It isnt a case of just going down the sizes. I am having to look at making differently shaped clothes.

Mine too!!! I invested in a sit/stand desk which I only remember to do once I get up and feel pain in my butt. I know it needs a break then. Some cushions have a wedge cut out the back. I may look for one of these.

That's interesting. I've found that my clothes are getting too big in certain places, but the next size down doesn't fit in other places, IYSWIM.

I'm therefore kind of stuck because I can't alter my clothes myself (and practically everyone is in the same position).

Sounds similar to me with your mum
You absolutely must do this however it is right for you .
We carry it with us all the pain from childhood.. loosing weight with monjroro eases that pain x
I started monjroro a year a go ..it felt like a huge mountain to climb .
But that year has gone by so fast . monjroro just does it's thing while we get on with life x

Oh that is also resonating!

I know that underneath the fat my actual frame is quite narrow. So I am expecting my hips to eventually be substantially smaller. and my whole clothes-making approach will have to change…

Bit embarrassing to admit but the flatulence and sulphur burps are off the scale in the last week or two . Ive changed nothing , eating basically the same foods , drinking lots of water but its like clockwork every evening cramps, burps and the most horrendously loud non stop farting! Thankfully we are a fairly laid back household when it come to farting but this is like nothing ive ever experienced before. Is there anything at all thats worked for people suffering from the same issues . Ive tried buscopan Rennies and immodium and nothing has helped

Kicking off the week’s WI round!

Week 38, 10mg

SW 19st 4lbs (Jan 2025, pre-MJ)
SW on MJ 18st 11.5lbs (1 Mar 2025)
CW 13st 13.5lbs
Loss this week 1lbs
Total loss 74.5lbs

Not bad but I would like a little more! Redoubling the effort for this week.

@TragicMuse a pound is a win in the right direction!

I know what you mean about build. I am another narrow hipped person. Unfortunately my waist size is at least 2 sizes larger than my hips. So the trousers I am starting work on this weekend are going to require some serious grading.

Also, fairly wide shoulders and not much bust.

I am not going to come out of this looking like a supermodel. I can see me coming out looking 'boney'.

I had a poo!

🎉💪🏻🎉

I thought I’d brave a 6 month progress pic as I spent so long on here moaning that I didn’t feel or see any difference in size, finally I do!

@diggitydoo i haven’t calorie counted at all but know that when I was trying to diet before Mounjaro, apps like my fitnesspal always told me I could have 1800 calories to be in deficit. I think I actually need less though, as I say I’m not counting but am aware of roughly what I’m eating from a life time of tracking and think I’m more like 1200-1400 per day. Makes sense why previous diets were so slow and fruitless.

@IWishIWasABaller I'm a mega farter on mj! I blame the constipation. Which has been excruciatingly mortifying this last 6 weeks because I’m on 1:1 care (meaning a staff member sits with me at all times 24/7) so I'm forever holding farts in or going back and forth to the toilet (which they can obviously hear through the door!). It's embarrassing and thankfully don't smell, just pop! So I feel your pain!

My constipation is the best it's ever been though since being here, every 3/4 days instead of once a week, I blame the incredibly strong coffee from the machine!

Next stone bracket @TragicMuse, always exciting 😊.

Congrats @diggitydoo 😂.

Hope things are ticking on ok @PearlTeapot are you still managing to get some fresh air?

I have a NSV for today and a question. NSV- latest Vinted purchase arrived (I’ve clearly replaced the food addiction with bargain shopping) a size 16 suede skirt so zero give in it. Opened the packet and thought that’s far too small. Put on and it just…zipped up. I’m stunned. Still a little snug and short(!) for my liking (I’m a classic pear, no boobs all hips, thighs and bum), but the joy of thanks to MJ being confident that in a few weeks it’ll definitely fit well is something I’ve never felt before.

As for the question, and maybe this is one for @TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne? Does anyone occasionally do a 24/36 hour fast? I’ve seen a few articles on the benefits of it and through being busy ended up not having the one meal I’d planned on Monday, just sugar free squash, water and a coffee. It has caused a bit of a whoosh on the scales though. As long as it’s not too often and keeping a close eye on protein/nutrients in general what do we think?

@ConfusedMiddleAger83 I can see a lot of change between those two photos, glad you can also see it now! as well!

There's a very obvious difference in your two pictures @ConfusedMiddleAger83 so well done!

@Onenotsosmallstep with regard to 24 fasting: I actually tried this for the first time last week and it worked a treat. It really kick-started my weightloss again.

It was one of the hardest things I've ever done though.
I did it at the weekend, because I'm very busy with the three dementia choirs during the week and

a) we always have tea, biscuits and cakes in the middle, which are hard to resist

and

b) I thought I might feel faint during such a long fast, and pass out while conducting, which would have been difficult.

However I'm going to do it again on Saturday this week.