Starmer getting tearful in his speech. Very touching

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I liked him.

I'm a nurse of 30 plus years. I don't think so..

People living longer is what has put pressure on the NHS (ironically). The huge majority of those people have contributed.

Agree.

I didn’t agree with him on everything but I’m almost certain he is a decent man and he I felt comfortable that there was an intelligent, reasonable adult in charge. (Yes it’s a low bar these days).

Yes even Labour MPs got the message. Their delight today says it all.

Cut the NHS waiting list my ass. It’s worse now than it’s ever been. I waited a full year from going to my Gp to seeing a neurologist for chronic migraines. And the appointment turned out to be what could have been a quick phone call to try a new medication.

She was all for going for the top job not that long ago and said she had the backers now she’s gone very, very quiet no mention of anything today in her post about Starmer!

I bet she doesn’t want the scrutiny if I was cynical 🤨.

Grow up.

Burnham was MP for Leigh for years and has been in the Cabinet.

Does she see the people whose GP is not being incentivised NOT to refer them to a consultant.

I wish I was joking, but I'm not.

I agree. I wish the political parties had worked together on how to reform the NHS, pensions and social care decades ago when it started to become obvious that we had a demographic crisis looming. The welfare state was set up at a time when life expectancy was far shorter than it is now and when many expensive treatments of all kinds had not been invented. Politicians in this country are not good at long-term planning and working co-operatively so we've drifted into the present position where the NHS is virtually falling apart and the cost of pensions is enormous.

I wish I could hope that the new PM will be the one to kickstart radical change but I doubt it.

He's not even a massive character, I don't think this is an ego thing, I don't think it's for the pension as we already established not in for the money. Boris Johnson was an ego thing, despite being totally out of his depth.

If you think the issue regarding the boats is such an easy fix, then I suggest you write to parliament and let them know. No, it's not his fault, it is a cheap shot as it's a long standing problem that all parties would inherit. The asylum seekers have been coming for years, first on the trains in Calais (remember all the camps along the train tracks?) then on boats. Under Starmer though, things have become tougher for asylum claims, people are being returned, numbers are down.

I agree, my experience has been pretty good over the last six months. Husband diagnosed with locally advanced prostate cancer in January. Numerous scans, no waiting, had his MRI scan at 0800 on a Sunday morning. Access to the required drugs, some of which are very expensive. Communication can sometimes be an issue, but the actual clinical experience has been excellent.

No doubt there are people that blame him as an individual, but of course who talks to you and what they say will be influenced by who you were canvassing for, and where. What were people telling you was the solution, new leader, new government or something else?

I agree on the optics of that. KS needed to be squeaky clean after the last lot.

But surely you don’t honestly believe it’s ok for a PM to take freebies from anyone so long as he or she never promised to be a good guy? None of them should be taking gifts from anyone.

I disagree. If you want the 'top job' then don't whine (not that he is whining but some supporters are) when you are criticised for manipulating the truth into a lie. Numbers are definitely not down! We still have many, many thousands more people living in these small isles who arrived on our shores in blow-up boats; whose backgrounds are totally unknown to us because they have deliberately 'lost' their paperwork, and who are having a serious impact on housing, eduction, healthcare, welfare, logistics, social cohesion, culture, and the country's bank balance.

Andy Burnham was an MP for years before he was mayor of GM. He was the health secretary!

It takes more than a few broken sobs to make a man suitable to lead

Has everyone forgotten the mandelson debacle? Starmer lost the confidence of his party because he either lied about knowing mandelson's dodgy background and friends, or .... there's no 'or'.

Oh absolutely I do agree !

A few tears is nothing.

He was up to his neck in the Mandelson stuff and let someone else take the fall his spin doctor Morgan McSweeny.

He had people fast tracked and jailed for tweets too!

Pity he didn’t had shed some tears for the 250,000 grooming gang victims or those whose lives have been torn apart by the boat arrivals let loose in their communities.

What has made me laugh - the irony of it - Starmer has flip flopped and U turned throughout the last 2 years and this is one of his biggest faults, for me.

All last week he said " I'm going to fight in the potential up coming leadership contest"

and now he resigns!

The final u turn 🤣

I agree. Wes Streeting has a lot to answer for. Shedding thousands of jobs with zero plan and thereby losing decades of experience and costing a fortune. All whilst gleefully claiming to be improving things and rubbing his hands about 'getting rid of pen pushers'. He has no idea what most people working in the NHS actually do. Like an awful lot of people, who think the NHS is solely run by doctors and nurses 🙄

Unfortunately this damage done by tories cannot be undone overnight. And I say that as someone who's been waiting nearly 2 years now for ENT and 14 months for cardiology.

There's another way of looking at it. And that's listening when he makes a mistake. He's supposed to work for us, so if 'us' tell him it's a shit decision, I have no problem in him changing his mind.

Flip flopping is just a saying made up by the right British press.

He was a self righteous prig who threw colleagues and underlings under the bus to save himself. He dithered and got very little accomplished.

I don’t feel sorry for him. His only belief seemed to be that he ought to be in charge.

I absolutely agree that if you make an incorrect decision, you change your mind and apologise

But political savviness means not making crazy decisions over and over again. Fair enough, the odd ballsup , is excusable. Not his reign as Mr Flip Flop

Starmer is a good man

But an appalling politician

Do not feel sorry for him at all. This is the toad who has an act of parliament to give him a huge pension.

The Pensions Increase (Pension Scheme for Keir Starmer QC) Regulations 2013