Starmer getting tearful in his speech. Very touching

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I liked him.

I think he cracked at the mention of his family and there’s something more personal to him going on

That’s above my pay grade and why I didn’t consider being a politician as a career. What I can’t stand is the manipulation of figures by such an inept little man to push his ‘didn’t I do well’ speech.

Also, we have no savings left due to my husbands cancer treatment costs, and Farage, who at no point in my post that you responded to did I mention supporting, so adopting a US style ‘insurance’ system wouldn’t make a blind of difference to my family!

I assumed it was coming from outside Downing Street.

Well done Streeting, you unquenchable prick. Talk about overrating yourself.

Nonsense.

Wes Streeting cut NHS waiting times

He can dry his tears with the lovely prime ministerial pension, of which we’ll be having to pay out again to another person now. The whole thing is absolutely ridiculous, reform will be rubbing their hands with glee. He should have been left to finish his term.

The new PM really needs to get a grip on the black economy, undeclared cash sales, VAT evasion, selling illegal goods such as duty free booze and tobacco products, all the money laundering shops, car washes, etc., illegal employment, fake self employment etc. It's a massive problem costing tens of billions per year, and it's not just tax evasion, it's benefit fraud and also child maintenance fraud.

When I started as an accountant in the 1980s, there was proper tax enquiries/investigations/visits to businesses to check their records, etc. Businesses could expect some kind of enquiry/visit every few years from local inspectors working in local tax offices who "knew their patch". A bit like local police constables. It just doesn't work when everything is centralised as you've lost all the local knowledge and things like visits become expensive when the tax inspector has to be paid for travelling and hotel costs because they live/work a couple of hundred miles away! Those who weren't on the fiddle knew there was a strong risk of another visit to check their books, so were less inclined to put cash in their pocket or claim a hotel stay weekend break as a business expense. Now with little prospect of challenge, it's open season and when people don't get caught doing a "little" fiddling, they get brave and do bigger things thinking it's worth the (small) risk of getting caught.

Nowadays, people get away with tax/benefit/CB/employment fraud/illegality because enforcement is practically zilch and they know it!

Smoke and mirrors like in Blair's days.

The music was an anti brexit protest, though I don’t know why they’d try and drown out Starmer’s final speech when Starmer is pro Europe himself. I found it extremely irritating.

Why is the fact that using private jets increases global warming, nonsense?

He was crying in case his wife won’t be given free clothes anymore by his pals from the mosque.

He was tearful because he knew he had been so unliked.

Agree I've waited over 2 years for an op, kept being delayed and delayed no joined up thinking or depts talking to depts. Stuff being misses all sorts I could write a book.
It is a disgrace, one of the secretaries I had a lot of dealings with she was in her 60s she has seen the goings on said NHS is on its knees as we have far too many using it and it cannot cope.
It is as simple as that we have added millions upon millions to the population over the last few decades and the NHS can't support the sheer number of people using it.
Many of them have never contributed.

Most of the PM''s that resign have got a bit emotional.

Let this be a lesson to any other PM who won’t listen and inflicts their woke ideology on the general public who want change.

If Andy doesn’t listen then Reform will get in.

I feel for him. He seems an all over alright bloke, as my mum would say “he means well.”

I think he buckled when he did emotionally because he was referring to his family, and I think that’s the measure of a decent man.

I think he lacks charisma and confidence, and that - along with an absolute media battering, has been his undoing.

He inherited an actual pile of shit. Nothing he did would ever have been good enough, because some seem to think quick fixes are available, and they’re not.

I felt for Theresa May for the same reason, despite not being a Tory. She took on other people’s mess, and ended up paying for it too.

We don’t need a GE, because we live in a democratic country and we voted for Labour, so they should get their minimum term. If we’re going to continue changing our minds and therefore demanding re-dos, might I suggest we also re-do the Brexit vote.

Meh, I'm no fan of him politically, but I truly don't think he's a bad person. He's inherited the country in a time it would have been impossible to please people. I think he'd have probably been good in politically boring times.

I think he seems a decent enough bloke, and on a purely human level, I feel sorry for him. He's not had good support from either the public or his party and has been hounded out of office early. I also wonder if he's chosen to do what is the best for the party, and recognises labour have a better chance at keeping Reform etc out under a different leader.

By that logic, Churchill didn't do anything to help in WW2 as PM. He was only useful cos he was Minister for Defence at the same time.

Yes

I think a big part of his problem was that he doesn't connect with people at all, he comes across lacking empathy and like a stone. Like very buttoned up and no connection with people.

That is a big part of his downfall.

He is a lawyer he didn't have charisma or the human touch.

I'm no fan of his but that was the most human I've ever seen him maybe if he had more to this he wouldn't be where he is.

The music was Ode to Joy - the EU anthem. It was being played by the anti Brexit protesters who have set up permanent camp outside Downing Street as it's the 10th anniversary of the vote soon.

Just like to offee some balance when anecdotes about the NHS are being discussed.
I had a cancer diagnosis. Still receiving treatment to prevent reoccurence years after this.
My diagnosis & treatment was swift. I had full diagnistic investigations within 2 weeks of seeing my GP. Staff have been unfailingly compassionate and knowledgable. When I needed it, the NHS was there. I would be dead without the timely treatment I received.
Are there problems in the NHS? Yes. Do some people have a poor expeirence? Yes. Is this universal? No.
When I had realistic fears for my life and was facing years of treatment, I was very glad the NHS was there & treatment was free at the point of delivery.

I agree. Final chance to avoid a Farage/Reform government in 2029. Hopefully AB understands that and will bring in policies to deal with the issues that make Reform popular, ie population growth, benefits culture, making work pay, ending London Centricity, etc.

Last chance saloon.

I think he was a poor leader and unsuited to the job of PM. I also think the scheming to get rid of him was appalling, including the parachuting in of Burnham as a potential new PM when he has zero experience of even being an MP. But I do find it irritating that all these ousted PMs get tearful for themselves after one performance after another of badly scripted, face-pulling faux-concern for ordinary people who have suffered genuine tragedy and horrors.

It's surely foreseeable that you'll get emotional talking about the effect on your family, so best to leave them out of a resignation speech, which is a professional matter.

You want a left centrist government to support right centrist ideas?
That’s not going to happen.
What would be the point of being a Labour politician if you pushed through things you don’t support?