Starmer getting tearful in his speech. Very touching

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I liked him.

Imagine having to bring your spouse to work after a difficult meeting? People shouldn't take these big tough jobs on if they think they might be shit at them. Christ knows I'd be rubbish. Covid taught me never to be sympathetic to MPs. I felt sorry for Matt Hancock at the time etc

OK, wrong language regarding what you want specifically.
What I am saying is, if the country expects a left centrist government to do right centrist things, we will and should be in for a long wait.
I didn’t vote Labour in order for them to cut welfare and concentrate on cutting immigration. If I had wanted those things to be my government’s priorities I would have voted for a party for whom that was the priority.

You are the one immature. Grow up.

He is the most disliked PM ever in history...there is a reason for that.

This, x 💯
I want a mature politician who understands the law and how to be part of a peace conference.
Not someone who is all about the image.

I work in LA and the amount of housing benefit fraud alone is unbelievable

But aren't we always told that fraud is a minuscule fraction of the whole, @morgan56?

Guess that'll be those statistics again ...

Yes, he didn’t get into our “hearts” enough.

I don’t need him to, he’s not my mother.

I’d like politicians to run the country, not connect with me emotionally like they’re my best mate.

Also. I think Thatcher might like a chat about being the “most hated,” people tried to actually kill her.

To casual overseas observers (like me) Starmer seemed like a return to sanity and sobriety in British politics.

But it seems in all those years of Tory turmoil, many Brits developed a taste for goofball politicians and now want them back. They look admiringly at Trump and are genuinely jealous of Americans.

That's the only way to make sense of the huge support for loopy Farage, and the apparent relief that "boring" Starmer has now resigned.

No he did the opposite of what he pledged. I’ll step lightly on your lives. Enough people thought he was stomping everywhere and so would vote for anyone but him.

Even in Makerfield Labour MPs heard how disliked he was.

Amazing his many are standing up for him now! Talk about hypocritical!

The last time people voted with their heart we had Brexit.
May be, listening to your heart is better suited when picking a lover.

I’m not sure - he hasn’t stomped on my life.

What has he done that involved stomping on people?

Well of course I guessed that for you. On what other people think it’s what’s driving Labour MPs to get rid of a PM even though he got in with a majority.

Listen to what they say, they’re hardly hiding the info.

Agreed, but it's no surprise from a country that elected Boris Johnson and where significant numbers seem to like and (incredibly) trust Nigel Farage. Being a good laugh down the pub appears to count for far more than it should. I sometimes wonder how their supporters would feel if they had to work with someone who was a workshy bigmouth of questionable honesty, was quite clearly out for himself and would ride roughshod over everyone else. Would that all count for nothing against a bit of superficial charm?

It’s really not this. I’m not surprised Starmer and co can’t see it.

Exactly!

He isn't contesting it as he is not liked and it would be embarrassing for him to go into a leadership contest even though he said only last week he'd fight a challenge.

He was turning us into a communist state, digital ID, no jury trials, an exploding welfare bill, no stopping of any boats with thousands arriving every week, long delays in the NHS my own and 2 elderly family members whose health has been shot to pieces real life experiences oh and the highest tax burden ever on any poor sod who endeavours to work for a living.

He was stomping over every aspect of our lives more control, more rules and regs.

No one agreed to any of that.

Then to top it off he acted like a character out of The Woodentops.

Were you alive when Mrs Thatcher was PM?

People felt he treated them with contempt. They returned the favour.

I was no fan of Sir Keir's policies, or his party, but the way he has been treated is appalling. He is a decent man, but a poor politician and in the wrong job.
We live in a democracy..... we get the chance to vote for a new Government (and PM) every 4 or 5 years - why can't we just stick to this? It's bonkers that parties (plural) can just ditch a leader when they feel like it, simply because they're unpopular in the country.

I thought it was best he had ever given…

He did the opposite of what he pledged. I’ll step lightly on your lives

This is true, @EasternStandard, but then I doubt he had any choice
If he hadn't done the usual socialist thing of malign interference his party would probably have got rid of him even faster than they did

Realistically we were always going to have Labour again after the horror of the last Conservative government, but so many remember the more moderate Blair years and not what came before him, so it's perhaps all a bit of a shock

Completely agree. Endless sneering from both Starmer and Reeves whenever they were held to account for their poor performance.

I don't think And Burnham will be any better, Keir Starmer in a t shirt he is being described as.😆

He is not even an MP as yet en rouet to being sworn in; he tried and failed before to be PM.

Keir Starmer came across as looking down on the little people, like he was too good to mingle with the plebs.

Andy Burnham was an MP for years before he left to become Mayor of Manchester and held many shadow ministerial positions

Did you see the speech? He was crying while he thanked his wife for her support through the bad and good times. Just a reminder it’s 2026 and if you think a man crying is an “emotional wuss” when thanking their wife, you need to update yourself a bit… even Nigel Farage said it was touching 😂

Communist state, right, okay.

Digital ID - aiming to improve the RTW checks, which predominantly makes it easier in terms of migrants and illegal working. The rest of us, the gov would have info it already has. Sounds awful.

No jury trials - An ongoing discussion, started before Starmer, about how to speed up the courts system in very specific cases.

Welfare - he suggested PIP review, and was shot down. Rightly, IMO, but you can’t have it both ways.

Boats - the peak was in 2022 (as in, not Labour) and have actually gone down.

Tax - I’m a Higher Rate payer, and I don’t know if this is news, but things aren’t free. They’re paid for in taxes, that some people (like me) pay more toward. Unless you’re a net contributor, I also don’t actually think you are paying excessively.

Long delays in NHS - again, see the Tory’s for what happened there, there is a lack of improvement but let’s not pretend he caused them.

Don’t let the facts get in the way though.