The Sixth Republic - Will we or won’t we? That is the question! #solidarity

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I was thinking before. How come when some people get 'hysterical' ( deliberate MN word) about children missing so much education that dreadful consequences must surely ensue this is not called scaremongering? That NZ research has really got to me. It speaks massively to the resilience of community and young people. It's a good news story and the government should be reassuring with evidence like that, not telling people how awful things will be without formal schooling. That's where I personally see the hysteria.

Rant over.

Love that irony piece hip!!

Welcome to the inner sanctum eitak!

I thought it was weird I couldn't find bonjela anymore...

I've been doing a weird self flagellation thing by watching contagion and also The Rain, where the virus is actually in the rain

Only in an area around Denmark, ironically...

I watched the first series last year; it was actually hard to start watching the second.

Btw, apparently there's an AMA by a Dutch family around schools at the mo, any idea where?

Morning! Waking up to more news stories about how other countries going back to school have caused no harm yet in all the pictures they print, children and staff are wearing PPE?!
Justine and Tony wading into the argument about the unions but conveniently forgetting that it was the government who ignored meeting with them and the government still withholding ‘the science’ does anyone else think this is another slogan dreamt up by Dominic Cummings??

Piggy I agree about the hysteria. It also usually comes with a nice large dose of embellishment of time lost, from 7 months, to a year, to two years spouted by many. It’s been a few weeks people! Stop counting holidays in that time! Some people really don’t realise just how much of the curriculum have been covered by the end of March already and how the exam boards will not disadvantage pupils next year but of course that’s not their priority right now!

And the Mental Health issue is getting bandied about lots. Pre-lockdown, Mumsnet is always full of school threads of parents with school refusers, parents angry about uniform decisions and keeping their kids at home and parents discussing their children who are not liking school etc. Many children suffer mental health issues at school and I would have thought a large proportion of this children and families and experiencing better mental health currently. Or do those families not matter to these posters I wonder?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3912936-AMA-my-child-s-been-back-at-Dutch-school-for-one-week

There you go neuro

Any other science teachers here. Just been reading CLEAPSS guidance and thinking the exam boards really need to remove the practical components as it feels like practicals are now verging on impossible for most classes

Hey great. I agree we have said in here none of us even have safety googles anyway.

Piggy I agree with your musings more should be made of this every day theres a new article saying we don't care are lazy etc.

I am dropping in occasionally on threads to point it out. Usually being ignored.

Nice article by Suzanne Moore in the Guardian this morning.

Piggy I wonder if its worth starting a thread probably not though and probably would descend into teacher bashing,

Yes, that is what I thought riga and I stay off those TB threads even just to pop the findings in.

tadjennyp

That was a balanced article, thank you.

Morning all.

In small schools. Where there is a very low number (under 10) of keyworker children and those in reception, y1 and 6 who want to come back, has anyone been asked to carry on with a rota system if they have had one for key workers children?

We have been having a teacher and ta in daily and going in twice weekly. This is to continue.

I know it isn't following the guidance, because of no bubble.

Anyone else been asked to do this?

I'm wondering if people who are intending to send their children back are thinking it's drop in and out? So, are we likely to have Susie attending only on Mondays and Wednesdays, and Billy going home at lunchtimes if his mum finishes work then? And Tommy and Johnnie not turning up on a Friday because the forecast is good so they're off to the beach?

Angelina that's what we've had with our keyworker/vulnerable lot. manageable when there's only a few, not so much with whole year groups!

We have been very clear it’s uniform, full days etc.

The comment that annoyed me this morning was along the lines of ‘my child needs hugs, she still cries when she’s going in’.

People think we reverse into our cupboards and plug in to charge, don’t they?

Morning. Thanks for the links. That AMA thread (only read first page to understand the rules etc in case it turns into a bun fight) outlines some sensible ideas.

I think they think we are (or should be) superhuman. But not superheroes because that would be silly.

The AMA was informative. I think I got to p4 and apart from some of the ‘good to see positivity’ digs, it was ok. The Netherlands (I believe) has had fewer than 6000 deaths though.

It is interesting, though I noted on various bbc news items bubbles were much lower than 15.

They've had 548 deaths; I don't know how that's being measured though. Clearly still a big difference.

The Netherlands (I believe) has had fewer than 6000 deaths though.

And yet always glossed over by those ‘having a dig’ brigade, eh!?

It just cements the opinion that I have, that the government have just not done enough education-wise in so many areas hang your head in shame Gavin, oh wait, you’ve already been fired by one prime minister
but they are getting away with it.

I didn't think of those as digs on my own AMA, actually (although depends on who the poster is and what else they said!) . Mostly they came form posters who were clearly, like us, fed up of the relentless sniping and nastiness on other boards and wanted a nice discussion.

The fact that the Dutch poster put her AMA in AIBU has given it more traffic, though so perhaps a few more antagonists than mine!

Our nautical friend is at it again. Is it deliberately misinterpreting guidance or only reading DM headlines do you think?!

@greathat. I read the CLEAPPS guidance (in Scotland so waiting for our equivalent from SSERC to be released but I imagine it will be much the same). I agree about the practical component having to be removed from exams. I've lost touch with the requirements in England but we have a practical based coursework compenent worth around 20% for our exam classes and practical techniques are in the written exam too. The required practicals at Advanced Higher are onerous as it is and I use PPA time to get through them all (my choice!).

I was reassured to see my technician and I were ahead of the game with our milton bath for goggles two weeks before schools closed! Watch this space I guess.