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The Sixth Republic - Will we or won’t we? That is the question! #solidarity

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 17/05/2020 17:34

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

In the other staffroom, there is rhubarb & ginger gin, along with tea and coffee.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 22/05/2020 07:45

The tes has reported that 2 academies have broken ranks and aren't returning on the 1st as they won't be ready and doubting plans.

Piggywaspushed · 22/05/2020 07:46

OK, yet another thing that alarms me about Oak :

frottage is a very specific psychology word for people who get off on rubbing things! It describes the physical pleasure and gratification of 'the rub'.

Years of teaching Of Mice and Men come in handy there!

Piggywaspushed · 22/05/2020 07:47

ps I love poetry. So there. You were just badly taught. Grin

Piggywaspushed · 22/05/2020 07:49

Just looked up frottage and it is a specific art term, too, it turns out. But it's not brass rubbing.

NeurotrashWarrior · 22/05/2020 07:50

ShockGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

Well there we go piggy. My of mice and men knowledge wasn't sticky enough!

NeurotrashWarrior · 22/05/2020 07:54

The thing is, many ks1 pupils still
Don't know how to mix green; frottage is useless info. The learning activity is great; collecting textures is really fun, inclusive and interesting. I can see the point of exposing pupils to a wide ranging vocabulary; at the same time, assuming that's important in the art world at ks1 is not. That's where the loss of the Nat curriculum for art has been huge.

I've attended teacher training courses with rubbing activities; the word wasn't even mentioned there!

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 22/05/2020 07:54

I think it is a ‘blended’ model that we will follow. The school does not have the space or spare teacher capacity. Still waiting for someone in government to mention tents
#solidarity

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Piggywaspushed · 22/05/2020 08:02

A wide ranging sexual deviant vocabulary at that!!

grafittiartist · 22/05/2020 08:16

Hi,
Please can I join you all?
I have already this morning posted two rants defending our profession on other threads, and I need to just not engage now.
Can I play here instead?

pfrench · 22/05/2020 08:17

Frottage = wanking.

I ended up in an interesting Twitter exchange with the Teacher Tapp guys about knowledge and the curriculum.

They wanted to just go to 'same for everyone'. But that means all you're doing is reading a script. How boring! Where's the skill? Question was, if the job is less fun, but the children learn more (because way of delivery), then is that a reasonable pay off?

RigaBalsam · 22/05/2020 08:30

A group of senior scientists has warned that 1 June is too soon for schools to reopen safely and that more time is needed to set up an effective track and trace system to contain future outbreaks.
The independent Sage committee, chaired by the former government chief scientist Sir David King, say that new modelling of the coronavirus shows the risk to children will be halved if they return to school two weeks later than ministers propose. Delaying until September reduced the risk still further.
The extra two weeks would allow more time for infections to fall in the community and for crucial track and trace capacity to be built up so that new cases are found and isolated fast.

RigaBalsam · 22/05/2020 08:31

They are taking q's like Neiro posted. Wonder what time the SAGE stuff will be published.

RigaBalsam · 22/05/2020 08:37

Neuro! Sorry

SallyLovesCheese · 22/05/2020 08:44

@reefedsail

are you not expecting to need the other rooms this term when we are told to bring the other children back?

Sorry, should have specified but was trying not to put in any identifiable details: the rooms are specific SEN rooms, very small for 1:1 or small group teaching.

I've no idea of the head's plans for the other year groups as yet.

Piggywaspushed · 22/05/2020 08:52

The knowledge curriculum people are all about everyone doing the same

cf Oak National

Piggywaspushed · 22/05/2020 08:55

Welcome graffiti!

Did you bring your own milk?

ChloeDecker · 22/05/2020 08:56

Thank you Piggy-you’re graphic comparing Denmark and England has come in useful on another thread! Whether anyone reads it is another matter though Grin

Appuskidu · 22/05/2020 08:58

twitter.com/tes/status/1263711685463863298?s=21

I think this is it, riga. I presume by calling themselves ‘independent sage’ they are still medics, but not paid directly by the government like normal sage?!

If I was a scientist putting my name now, today to a document ‘PROVING’ it was safe to open schools, I would be very very worried (for myself) for the future!

Who will be blamed when (if?) we do go back on June 1st and people die?

Not the Tories as they were only following the science who assured them it was safe!?

pfrench · 22/05/2020 09:01

The knowledge curriculum people are all about everyone doing the same

Well, in the two schools I've worked in since 'knowledge curriculum' became all anyone talked about, the curriculum for the school has been written by one or two people. I wrote some of it in my last school, our deputy head has writte it all in my current school.

Why are our opinions on curriculum content better than anyone else's?

I'm teaching the Romans to my year 3 class in September (maybe!) and focusing almost entirely on concrete. Exciting stuff!! That's the legacy that our deputy has decided is the important one. When I planned a Romans topic for year 3 in my old school we focus on invasion and settlement. I think I mentioned concrete in a lesson or two.

So, two sets of year 3 children have different Romans knowledge.

Piggywaspushed · 22/05/2020 09:11

They aren't definitely and the problem arises especially when one person's subject knowledge is far superior so the other teachers flounder , or worse, when the person setting all the lessons has poor subject knowledge and this is then imparted to all: I give you Oak's spelling of the Gothic cannon...

pfrench · 22/05/2020 09:21

There are a lot of primary teachers who don't read around their subjects too - not 'their' subjects, but if they don't like teaching RE (common), then they just teach lessons based on the facts in the knowledge organiser, but can't discuss anything with the children around context or whatever. There are huge knowledge gaps in teachers.

I wish I'd had chance to do proper CPD during lockdown time - but the recording lessons thing just took all my time. I'm hoping that other teachers who haven't done as much for online learning, have done a lot of reading at least.

Grasspigeons · 22/05/2020 09:25

concrete Grin

RigaBalsam · 22/05/2020 09:31

Geoff Barton just been on the BBC this his what he said aby' the Science'

Its not going to show if schools should open first of june but the management of risks. What is it we will need to do? In order to keep children fairly self contained. Hygiene levels are good. People are fixated 1st June is business as usual then started saying secondary should definitely not be from 1st June.

Piggywaspushed · 22/05/2020 09:32

Geoff Barton says he has been reassured that the risk to teachers is the same as to some other similar professions.

Would love him to clarify what the similar job roles are...

RigaBalsam · 22/05/2020 09:34

You mean you don't feel better piggy that your risk could be the same as a care worker or a nurse?