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The Teachers’s Republic Refuge - solidarity comrades!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 28/04/2020 13:34

So continuing on from our boycott/flowers we need to continue to defend our profession. This is teacher/school staff chat - if you do not fall into that category please start you own thread elsewhere.

#solidarity

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FrippEnos · 03/05/2020 19:38

Piggywaspushed

The Journo's also miss out on the parents in Denmark and France that are kicking off about the schools been opened.

BelleSausage · 03/05/2020 19:41

@FrippEnos

You’re right. Some of the posts today are unbelievable. MN really is the dark side at the moment.

WhyNotMe40 · 03/05/2020 19:50

Oh god I had forgotten about the lack of pens thing. There is no way I'm going to be handing out pens and collecting them back in like I normally do if we go back this side of summer. And I can just imagine parents kicking off about their child not being able to do the work because I wouldn't let them blah de blah de blah.
Fake coughing to get out of lessons, purposefully destroying pens, coughing on each other "accidentally on purpose". It will be horrible.

GravityFalls · 03/05/2020 20:02

I want to cry when I see y12 being pushed as one of the “first to return” groups - I only teach y12 after half term and I have two primary aged DC! So my boyfriend, who is not their stepdad in any way, will have to homeschool them and work from home (he’s self-employed). Fuck me. The worst fucking scenario possible for me.

ChloeDecker · 03/05/2020 20:15

Fake coughing to get out of lessons, purposefully destroying pens, coughing on each other "accidentally on purpose". It will be horrible.

There are so many parents who really don’t have a clue about this, eh?! but will be the first to complain on behalf of their child

StrawberryJam200 · 03/05/2020 20:19

I was in some ways looking forward to going back (on a safe date, whenever that may be), until I thought about the fact that behaviour management is going to have a potential bearing on life and death....

KOKOagainandagain · 03/05/2020 20:22

Can I just say ...

I am not a teacher and despite (or because of) the shit-show of SEN education that has failed both my ASD DC, I still see all staff involved in education (not managers obvs) as comrades and would stand shoulder to shoulder with you at 'the barricades'.

SEN parents have fought against the idea that teachers are glorified baby-sitters. We wanted you to support us against an unfair system. You weren't able to and we understand that. You thought you were doing your best.

We were effectively powerless, blamed, demonised and excluded but you have structural power and now you are fighting the same unfair system that demands too great a personal sacrifice. Some of us SEN parents are still willing to be your allies even if it is too late for our own DC. How can we help?

Solidarity needs to cross divides not be exclusionist.

Piggywaspushed · 03/05/2020 20:23

It's worth having a look at the end of this thread to see what is happening in France (although it's France = bureaucracy, whereas UK= slapdash?)

pinkrocker · 03/05/2020 20:31

Piggy that link didn't work, took me to the homepage of MN?

RigaBalsam · 03/05/2020 20:35

Thanks keepon ThanksThanks

Cyberworrier · 03/05/2020 20:36

“I support NEU’s five tests for Government before schools can re-open“ says Rebecca Long Bailey on Twitter...
Hello everyone, long time lurker on staff room, part time teacher and succumbing to the various threads finally after resisting for weeks due to anxiety about all this media supposition bullshit and uncertainty.

Piggywaspushed · 03/05/2020 20:37

That's odd pink as it takes me to the right thing. You can find the thread in Coronavirus topic.

NeurotrashWarrior · 03/05/2020 20:43

Interesting french thread. A friend in France said it was mainly due to many families completely going off the radar especially in rural areas. And it sound like it's very different area to area according to that thread. She did say it was up
To the schools to decide who/how/when.

NeurotrashWarrior · 03/05/2020 20:47

As we've said before, re yr 6s returning (Guardian). Pointless in middle/ first school set ups.

BelleSausage · 03/05/2020 21:13

It will be bloody chaos.

I can see people point blank refusing to go in unless there are some measures to control infection. I know that I would be considering my position carefully.

Will have to see what happens.

My crystal ball predictions is the government baulks at the last minute and opens for Yr6,10 and 12 but no other years until Sept.

That way they can say they opened schools without actually opening completely and kicking the can down the road completely.

Mistressiggi · 03/05/2020 21:14

What would that look like though, all staff in school but only teaching a couple of times a day?

MossWalk · 03/05/2020 21:17

It's such a clusterfuck.

Are parents expecting Y6 to be brought back in for signing shirts, discos I will NOT use the word prom, shows and leaving assemblies?

Do any of them look at China's coordinated gym lessons in playgrounds and think, yup, that's the ticket?

WhyNotMe40 · 03/05/2020 21:20

And what would those of us with children in other years, (plus preschool or nursery) do? I can just imagine the chaos my small ones would cause if I brought them in to my secondary school with me. Or would schos also have to run extended keyworker childcare provision as well as the returning classes? To cope with all the teachers own children.

GravityFalls · 03/05/2020 21:27

Teachers’ children would make a big leap in the number of keyworker children attending school. Off the top of my head I can think of about 20 at my DC’s 1.5 form entry village school, and there must be more I don’t know of. Judging by the videos they’ve posted of assemblies and such there’s been about 15 children in each day so a large increase for them to deal with as well as 40-odd year 6s.

Asuitablecat · 03/05/2020 21:29

Wales would have to relax the 2 key worker parents rule if England wants me back in.

Dh aka Mr health and safety (official, not self declared) keeps asking how schools are going to afford all the safety measures his place are putting in.(factory). I keep reminding him I buy my own board pens and pens and glue.And he shrugs. He's enjoying fighting the good fight for me all over small and the Daily M.

GravityFalls · 03/05/2020 21:35

I can’t see my college putting in any real measures. We didn’t even have hand gel in the dispensers before we closed. Everything’s always slightly grubby. We clean our office desks and computers ourselves with cleaning stuff from home. And in general I’d say it’s of a much nicer and cleaner standard than secondary schools I’ve worked in (which are often truly minging).

worstofbothworlds · 03/05/2020 21:46

I guess if they do use track and trace all of a school (secondary) or year group (primary) will be sent home to self isolate as soon as one is infected? Hence returning us to the state we are now in?
We (universities) will be looking at what boarding schools are doing very hard, too.

WhyNotMe40 · 03/05/2020 21:49

And now us teachers are being portrayed as workshy sicky throwers too scared to do our duty, just ready to throw another strike, on the Teacher Shortages AIBU thread.

I'm not going to respond, I'm not going to respond....

Asuitablecat · 03/05/2020 21:51

I'm going to have to actively avoid any teacher threads.