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RainbowBagels · 12/07/2025 22:53

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/07/2025 22:47

I was wondering this but surely the palace know how the general public feel about Harry and Meghan without having to pull a stunt like this, public opinion on them has been rock bottom for years!

Maybe Charles and Harry want to reconcile and are trailing it to the public? Has Charles even seen the kids? Really, if Charles was any kind of father he wouldn't give a shit what the public thought if he wanted to try and see his son and grandchildren before he died. He's the King. He could tell the public to fuck off and give everyone a massive finger on the balcony and he'd still be King. Publicly as active members of the RF probably not but privately it's surely no ones business.

AtIusvue · 12/07/2025 23:02

RainbowBagels · 12/07/2025 22:53

Maybe Charles and Harry want to reconcile and are trailing it to the public? Has Charles even seen the kids? Really, if Charles was any kind of father he wouldn't give a shit what the public thought if he wanted to try and see his son and grandchildren before he died. He's the King. He could tell the public to fuck off and give everyone a massive finger on the balcony and he'd still be King. Publicly as active members of the RF probably not but privately it's surely no ones business.

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Do you understand how the Monarchy works? It only exists because we, the public, allow it to.
The French, Americans and Russians had their own thoughts when their Monarch gave them their own version of ‘fuck off’

So no. KC can’t tell the British public, who Harry has derided as racists and had to flee on a private jet to get away from, to ‘fuck off’

BasiliskStare · 12/07/2025 23:05

If Charles wants to reconcile privately with his son and his grandchildren , to me absolutely fine. Why this needs PR people , don't know. But just not let Harry have any part in the Royal Family ( with capitals - rather than the private royal family ) please ( my opinion) . H&M have told too many untruths and been too unkind to the instution and actually in their docuseries to the UK in general. I personally don't want to see them back. But I can see a grandfather wanting to reconcile with his son and his son's family. I just hope it is genuine on H's side and not because he's missing his paid for lifestyle and royal perks.

ETA - As @AtIusvue said - no KC cannot tell the country to do one 😂

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/07/2025 23:06

RainbowBagels · 12/07/2025 22:53

Maybe Charles and Harry want to reconcile and are trailing it to the public? Has Charles even seen the kids? Really, if Charles was any kind of father he wouldn't give a shit what the public thought if he wanted to try and see his son and grandchildren before he died. He's the King. He could tell the public to fuck off and give everyone a massive finger on the balcony and he'd still be King. Publicly as active members of the RF probably not but privately it's surely no ones business.

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Erm it doesn’t quite work like that, it’s crown first, always.

RainbowBagels · 12/07/2025 23:09

AtIusvue · 12/07/2025 23:02

Do you understand how the Monarchy works? It only exists because we, the public, allow it to.
The French, Americans and Russians had their own thoughts when their Monarch gave them their own version of ‘fuck off’

So no. KC can’t tell the British public, who Harry has derided as racists and had to flee on a private jet to get away from, to ‘fuck off’

I doubt anyone would bother doing anything at all if Charles said he was inviting Harry to tea and he didn't care what anyone thought. Technically yes the family is there as long as we allow it, which is presumably why they go around doing their charity work but in reality, how many people would actually care enough to overthrow them? Half the population can't even be bothered to vote, and the government actually has some effect on our lives and actual power. The French, British ( American) and Russian Monarchies had real power they were abusing. Ours are decorative.

1apenny2apenny · 12/07/2025 23:12

RF PR in overdrive. There not getting enough attention so need to keep themselves in the press to justify the amount of money they are paid. It’s just embarrassing, like an episode of Dynasty. They know exactly what they’re doing.

myrtleWilson · 12/07/2025 23:18

@1apenny2apenny are you suggesting that there is a metric in the long established financial relationship between the govt and the RF that is based on socmed view/interactions?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/07/2025 23:19

1apenny2apenny · 12/07/2025 23:12

RF PR in overdrive. There not getting enough attention so need to keep themselves in the press to justify the amount of money they are paid. It’s just embarrassing, like an episode of Dynasty. They know exactly what they’re doing.

Do you live in a cave or something? We have just had a state visit with all the pomp and ceremony which has been all over the media plus Catherine making headlines at Wimbledon, as if the Palace need to make headlines, they don’t even need to try, they just do! 😂

LadyJaneGrey18 · 12/07/2025 23:28

Reconciliation for Harry will involve Pa paying for his security , providing a free house and welcoming his wife back into the fold. Just for starters. There is no way Charles will agree to that and no way William will want Harry anywhere near him or his family again.

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AtIusvue · 12/07/2025 23:28

RainbowBagels · 12/07/2025 23:09

I doubt anyone would bother doing anything at all if Charles said he was inviting Harry to tea and he didn't care what anyone thought. Technically yes the family is there as long as we allow it, which is presumably why they go around doing their charity work but in reality, how many people would actually care enough to overthrow them? Half the population can't even be bothered to vote, and the government actually has some effect on our lives and actual power. The French, British ( American) and Russian Monarchies had real power they were abusing. Ours are decorative.

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Therefore as simply ‘decorative’ we don’t need a revolution to overthrow them. All we do is cut the purse strings.

AtIusvue · 12/07/2025 23:30

LadyJaneGrey18 · 12/07/2025 23:28

Reconciliation for Harry will involve Pa paying for his security , providing a free house and welcoming his wife back into the fold. Just for starters. There is no way Charles will agree to that and no way William will want Harry anywhere near him or his family again.

I think you’re right. This is all about Harry trying to get his security covered.

catin8oot5 · 12/07/2025 23:31

He wants money. All his court cases have gone tits up now he knows he’s fucked in the long run.

NautilusLionfish · 12/07/2025 23:32

AtIusvue · 12/07/2025 22:34

The DM outlines the whole timeline.

What time Harry’s PR arrived. What time the Kings rep arrived. They have pics of arrivals. What time they went out into the balcony- where a photographer just happened to get the perfect picture, that they went inside 10 mins later. They have pics of departures.

It’s obviously been leaked by M&H PR. They’ve been very quiet over the last two weeks- even with the wine launch. This meeting happened Wed, Meredith flew back to the US that night and by Saturday these pics are leaked.

We knew something was up because Harry seems to have gone AWOL, he’s lost his security court case and looks likely he will lose the DM case. His world has turned to shit and he’s trying to get some of his old life back.

It could be Fuckinghim Palace that leaked? Or H&M? Who knows

NautilusLionfish · 12/07/2025 23:35

What to make of this??

What kind of fucked up family sends PR reps for reconciliation talks for father and son. They need to meet where the wind does not pass and talk. Father to son. Each say their apologies and commit to working on this privately not with aides involved. Aides have their own agenda and dont care about breaking up this fragile family. And life is too short to cut off loved ones. They will need many many talks to establish trust on both sides. It will be a new and different relationship but surely it can be more positive than it is now. Both of side are hypocrites when they preach love and harmony and can't speak and reconcile over a fairly non issue. Idiots the lot of them

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2025 23:35

AtIusvue · 12/07/2025 22:34

The DM outlines the whole timeline.

What time Harry’s PR arrived. What time the Kings rep arrived. They have pics of arrivals. What time they went out into the balcony- where a photographer just happened to get the perfect picture, that they went inside 10 mins later. They have pics of departures.

It’s obviously been leaked by M&H PR. They’ve been very quiet over the last two weeks- even with the wine launch. This meeting happened Wed, Meredith flew back to the US that night and by Saturday these pics are leaked.

We knew something was up because Harry seems to have gone AWOL, he’s lost his security court case and looks likely he will lose the DM case. His world has turned to shit and he’s trying to get some of his old life back.

Sad thing is it might have worked if Harry had kept his gob shut about the not so secret meeting!

he self sabotages every time !

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/07/2025 23:37

catin8oot5 · 12/07/2025 23:31

He wants money. All his court cases have gone tits up now he knows he’s fucked in the long run.

Rumours have been circulating for a while they are struggling for cash.

1apenny2apenny · 12/07/2025 23:37

Not sure how handing out a trophy is ‘making headlines’. That’s part of her job, the same as the recent Macron visit, they are paid huge amounts of money and imo are looking less and less relevant and more and more greedy and entitled. Look at the recent press regarding their secret millions etc.

The country is on its knees and all we see is them on jollies ar Ascot, Wimbledon etc, oh and maybe giving advice on childcare (for which she had no qualifications) or talking about climate change whilst deciding if they’ll fly on a private jet to one of their many properties! You couldn’t make this stuff up!

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/07/2025 23:40

Not sure how handing out a trophy is ‘making headlines’.

It’s been literally headline news, not sure why that’s so hard for you to comprehend.

StartupRepair · 12/07/2025 23:40

If Harry is back in the fold that will create a mountain of future problems for William.

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2025 23:41

1apenny2apenny · 12/07/2025 23:37

Not sure how handing out a trophy is ‘making headlines’. That’s part of her job, the same as the recent Macron visit, they are paid huge amounts of money and imo are looking less and less relevant and more and more greedy and entitled. Look at the recent press regarding their secret millions etc.

The country is on its knees and all we see is them on jollies ar Ascot, Wimbledon etc, oh and maybe giving advice on childcare (for which she had no qualifications) or talking about climate change whilst deciding if they’ll fly on a private jet to one of their many properties! You couldn’t make this stuff up!

In your opinion, other opinions are available and differ.

NautilusLionfish · 12/07/2025 23:41

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/07/2025 23:37

Rumours have been circulating for a while they are struggling for cash.

According to which greedy tabloid? They do have money. And will make more. What with jams, honeys and wines selling out within seconds every time? And his paid appearances and speeches, and his ma's millions.

Rhaidimiddim · 12/07/2025 23:46

AtIusvue · 12/07/2025 23:02

Do you understand how the Monarchy works? It only exists because we, the public, allow it to.
The French, Americans and Russians had their own thoughts when their Monarch gave them their own version of ‘fuck off’

So no. KC can’t tell the British public, who Harry has derided as racists and had to flee on a private jet to get away from, to ‘fuck off’

Agree 100%.

Plus, all the stuff about grandaddy so sad about American grandkiddies.. BS!

A grown adult, estranged by a NPD DIL from their drug-addled son, learns to accept it.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 12/07/2025 23:46

NautilusLionfish · 12/07/2025 23:41

According to which greedy tabloid? They do have money. And will make more. What with jams, honeys and wines selling out within seconds every time? And his paid appearances and speeches, and his ma's millions.

How do you know they have money? Are you their accountant? and it’s laughable if you think selling pots of jam will keep the lights on at the Montecito McMansion, she ain’t Hartleys.

Noseyoldcow · 12/07/2025 23:46

Well, I am sure he misses the status and the perks including the VIP protection of being a so called working royal. I always wondered about the money and how long he’d have the ability to pay for the Montecito lifestyle with knobs on plus all the court cases with no visible income. Flogging a bit of jam, sorry, spread, sprinkles and vino won’t cut the mustard. He won’t get any change out of his brother, so he’s got to tap up his old dad. As he tastelessly pointed out, he doesn’t know how long his dad has got, so he’s had to get a move on.

NautilusLionfish · 12/07/2025 23:48

@RainbowBagels
Really, if Charles was any kind of father he wouldn't give a shit what the public thought if he wanted to try and see his son and grandchildren before he died.

Where do you get this kind of wisdom. 😎😁
Yeah Charles doesn't understand that without him acting like a father first and a public adoration hungry king last, his legacy is tarnished. 40 years from now people will judge him more harshly for not putting his son and grand kids before publicity.

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