Talks for reconciliation

[LadyJaneGrey18]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14899657/King-Charles-Prince-Harry-aides-meet-London-secret-peace-summit.html

What to make of this??

Which is most peculiar, because Duchy of Cornwall financial records show that Charles was still financially supporting them some months into their adventures in America.

Speculation like yours?

I agree with the points @AtIusvue made above.

Even though I didn't think it at the time, I can see in retrospect, H & M have gone quiet at a time they should have been visible (or ar least M should have been). The wine stands a better chance of going somewhere than pancake mix does and there are more wines in the pipeline apparently, and it is a bit more authentic for her than the trad wife thing (her original blog was named after a wine) so she really should be putting herself out there. And she hasn't.

Someone said it's the very early stages if it's staff talking, I agree but the fact it's in person is pretty significant.

I think someone speculated that maybe it didn't go well which is why the photo has leaked but if a photographer was tipped off beforehand then that theory doesn't hold. I'm stunned that this has happened.

Edit: typos

Because then he has a data point he can spin as "he tried" but they are all emotionally frigid and horrid boo hoo

back in reality its another nail in the coffin / data point proving nothing has changed because the RF will know his side leaked it to try and get leverage to force it because of the optics but they obviously cannot progress when he is still colluding with the gutter press he professes to hate...

I just honestly can't imagine having that much inherited wealth and not be able to make it work financially. It really does take a monumental amount of effort to stuff it up. If indeed it's the case that they're having to dig down the back of the sofa now. It's supposition only on here.
I have a friend/relative who's an enormous pain in the arse. She's alienated everyone in her life pretty much with her own terrible behaviour. She's not unlikeable and is actually really very intelligent but she's off the scale difficult and destructive. I have nothing to do with her anymore, for my own sanity and peace but I do occasionally feel that I should make contact and reconcile, as she's pretty much on her own. Whenever I have these thoughts though, I remember just how much upset she's caused and I remind myself that no good can come of getting back in touch. I fear that it's much the same in the royal camp. However much the RF may want to have Harry back in the fold, sadly, he will just repeat the same pattern of behaviours and cause more damage at some point, so it just isn't worth it.

There have been a fair few comments in the media about Charles needing to deal with Harry and not leaving it to William. He walks a difficult line as the monarch between wanting to and sort the issue out and creating anger amongst the public if he concedes too much to Harry after some are calling for his titles to be stripped. As a father he presumably wants reconciliation and a relationship with his son and grandchildren. There’s Harry’s mental state - from his latest interview he still seems to be a ball of unreasonable and paranoid anger, not necessarily easy to negotiate with. Then there’s Meghan who will doubtless have an opinion and may dig her heels in about the kids ever leaving the US.

I suspect the meeting is very preliminary. Perhaps leaking is testing the waters with the press/public on both sides, if the palace insisted on secrecy there would be places to meet without photos on a balcony.

Perhaps it’s a blackmail meeting? There have been rumblings about a Spare 2 (Still Spare) and maybe the rep is suggesting that a generous stipend from Charles might put Harry’s latest truths on the back burner…

I agree with you.

Anyhoo - I hope the family can find some kind of peace and move forward as a family in the real sense, but as for Harry and Meghan being part of the working RF ever again I would find that impossible to go along with.

Spare Change perhaps?!

Eh?

Exactly

Can you please try to post without swearing. There are so many other words you can use to let us know what you think and how you feel.

I doubt even the poster knows what they’re on about.

I just honestly can't imagine having that much inherited wealth and not be able to make it work financially. It really does take a monumental amount of effort to stuff it up. If indeed it's the case that they're having to dig down the back of the sofa now. It's supposition only on here.

Well, for a start they could downsize from their ridiculously oversized faux palace to a perfectly respectable property appropriate to their position and income.

Harry doesn’t need a UK “team” (even if it is just one person). They don’t need any kind of “team” actually. He just needs a financial adviser to manage his wealth so they get a decent return, a PA to organise him a bit and people to do the garden.

Meghan could stop fannying about with flower sprinkles, emailing her kids and looking at pictures of them from another room and just be a SAHM for a bit.

Charles will be determined to protect Camilla, William & Catherine. I'm sure he misses Harry, Megan and their children very much, but he won't have H&M throwing anyone else under the bus. Horrible position to be in. But that's families for you, everyone has shit to deal wit

I hope they find a way to sort it out. I'm sure Charles won't want William to have to deal with it, he won't tolerate any nonsense from his brother.

I was blindly clicking through all the threads as I couldn't sleep. Appears that some people on here feel the same, so not completely crazy.

@NautilusLionfish the RF don't "preach love and harmony". They don't preach anything.
That's entirely the modus vivandi of the Sussexes.

Definitely leaked by H&M, they are the only ones who have something to gain by making a reconciliation public. I’d go so far as to say to put pressure on the RF to reconcile. They really are a pair of snakes.
lots of rumours on X that Doria has left, that H has taken an OD, that the pair are spiralling. I’d take it all with a pinch of salt but there is no doubt something is amiss. If Charles and Harry want to privately reconcile in the family sense, that is on them but there is no public appetite to reconcile H&M back into the institution.

Well to be fair it is mainly the crazy ones who pop on to the thread to complain about it.

He may miss Harry on some level. He is his son after all. But I very much doubt he misses Meghan, whom he barely knows, and sadly the children are strangers to him.

I'm not sure there is huge pressure on Charles to 'sort it out'. The family has managed fine without Harry and as time passes, he would have become less relevant anyway. The need for reconciliation is all on one side only.

I can't see a problem with Invictus, I'm sure Charles can turn up, wish the troops well. If he can handle a second state dinner with Trump he can handle a couple of hour with Harry. Camilla will probably sit this one out. I very much doubt Harry would want William and Catherine especially if Catherine got a Wimbledon type reaction. The other senior royal would be fine. I do think that Charles whilst may hope for a family reunion he must also be acutely aware of the dangers of anything that damages his relationship with William and the damage he could cause to the monarchy. Strangely I think William and Catherine could live the dream away from the monarchy.

it would be nice if they all made up. can't see it happening, but would be good/

@LadyJaneGrey18 wonder what the result would be if they put it to the public vote??? i wouldnt be allowing them back in, knowing their own selfish reasons for wanting back!

On the inherited wealth front, he has inherited something approximating £20 million from his mother and grandmother, both of which have been compounding for a long time so worth way more today. But let’s stick with a conservative number.

With zero effort, you could hand that to Coutts or an employed personal advisor to manage and, assuming 5% return, live well on £1 million at least a year.

Zara and the other cousins live well on their inherited wealth, supplemented with wages in some cases but also paying for expensive hobbies. I’m quite sure the RF are paying for their children’s school fees and housing is not the problem it is for the rest of us.

But billionaire money it is not.

Charles follows government Foreign Office requests re: state dinners.
He invited Trump as one Head of State to another.