Is there another couple in the world like The Sussexes?

[veraswaistcoat]

I was musing last night about this aspect - they had the world at their feet. Despite what Sussex Supporters like to suggest most people in the UK nodded their heads " yes it was lovely Harry was getting married finally" . I had never heard of the bride myself as I don't watch American tv shows of that ilk. She was black or biracial? It didn't even enter my head what colour she was initially and then as coverage started it didn't make one iota of difference one way or the other. I recall the day of the wedding - it was sunny and the pubs were full of royal cheer broadcasting the wedding.

And then it all started to where we are today.

Are there any other couples in the world who have gone through such a downfall? Is this a feature of the social media arena today?
We see P Diddy and Blake Lively and others exposed now through SM.
You can't count the Duke and Duchess of Windsor in this category as they were always unpopular.

Can you think of any examples of people who have fallen so spectacularly?

I know people say " they live in California, they have money blah blah" but their reputation is one that most people would not want.

Is it purely because of their seeming complaining and sense of entitlement ? I mean you don't see the real philanthropists in this way - in fact you rarely hear about them and what they do.

Prince Andrew and Fergie, not an exact copy but there are obviously some strong similarities. The spoilt second sons. PA was adored when he was in the forces as was Harry, there was a massive downturn in popularity for both couples after various ventures. Hopefully Harry won’t end up going the way of Prince Andrew!

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I think it is their constant grandiosity and the yawning gap between their version of themselves and the reality revealed by their words and actions.
I can't think of another couple with such a huge platform and so little to offer. It is fascinating.

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Relies on his wife to earn income.

Hopefully Harry won’t end up going the way of Prince Andrew!

In the event of a UK return I think that ship may have sailed.

Palace attic ahoy 💀

Ren and Stimpy: an emotionally unstable and psychotic dog, and a good-natured and dimwitted cat, in a constant existential crisis.

What fascinates me is how quickly they threw everything away. They didn't even have a plan. I wonder if they regret it.

Well, I don't think anyone else can be like them because harry is a royal and he and his wife have completely sold the royal family secrets. They've bad mouthed their family, the queen, then the king and the future king, to the world.

Even Fergie and Andrew have never taken the piss out of the queen or trashed the royal family publicly in quite the same way.

I think Harry will one day

I think as well - I don't know of a less self aware, more narcissistic couple! There is something extremely* *frustrating about a pair of intellectually challenged narcissists with zero self awareness telling the public how self aware, kind, empathic and not narcissistic they are! and telling the public to do one thing while they do another.

Joseph might have been pretty good on that podcast idea that Spotify floated where something different was mended every week.

Every so often there's a television personality who builds their career on the BBC. Their programmes are wildly popular and they themselves are headed towards national treasure status. Then they go for the money and announce they are signing a golden handcuffs deal with ITV. But the new shows are too downmarket and commercialised, the audience doesn't follow the star across to the new channel, and their career will never reach the old heights again.

Harry and Meghan are basically the Simon Dee/Adrian Chiles/Jonathan Ross of royalty.

@veraswaistcoat

She was black or biracial? It didn't even enter my head what colour she was initially and then as coverage started it didn't make one iota of difference one way or the other.

Well clearly her skin colour is an issue otherwise you wouldn't have commented.

How on earth can you mention PDiddy & Harry as being in any way similar?

Why are you even thinking about them? I don't understand the obsession with.

@SooooHungry

Even Fergie and Andrew have never taken the piss out of the queen or trashed the royal family publicly in quite the same way.

Have you not heard of Andrew being mates with Epstein?

Rumours abound about h and m too ! But it's not something polite people talk about.

I mention it because it is the number one reason that they trotted out about the British RF being racist ! Simple.

You obviously haven't understood what I posted. I didn't say Harry was anything like P Diddy. I referred to SM as being used as an attack on people and spreading things. Read again.

Twitter, tattle etc., rumour mongers. Some people are vicious.

How about Antony and Cleopatra? Derivative versions, of course.

I do wonder why people obsess over them. If they are so annoying, give them less air time.

Their relationship has highlighted some realities that people from other races face - that many hate to admit or because ignorance is bliss, are fortunate enough to not have to experience it (to the point people can say it doesn’t exist).

I do wish they whined less - but all public figures arnt perfect. I can’t tell if their PR team is doing an amazing job making them this act whereby all they have to do is breath and everyone has an uproar (bad press still good press idea) - or if they are just unfiltered and maybe should consider a PR team.

I don’t know any other couple like them. But they might be in our great great great grandkids history books.

They bring out the worst in each other. They are each others nemesis I think.
So much for the stars being aligned.

Macbeth & Lady Macbeth

I agree.

Of course there are people who believe every article written in the tabloids about them, believe every quote from "sources". But I believe that a substantial majority of those who are not their greatest fans would reference the statement on Sussex Royal when they left, the Oprah interview, Spare and the attendant publicity campaign and The Cut article. These are not spin or fabrication, they are the couple in their own words and they don't come across well to me.