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Is there another couple in the world like The Sussexes?

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veraswaistcoat · 23/01/2025 10:54

I was musing last night about this aspect - they had the world at their feet. Despite what Sussex Supporters like to suggest most people in the UK nodded their heads " yes it was lovely Harry was getting married finally" . I had never heard of the bride myself as I don't watch American tv shows of that ilk. She was black or biracial? It didn't even enter my head what colour she was initially and then as coverage started it didn't make one iota of difference one way or the other. I recall the day of the wedding - it was sunny and the pubs were full of royal cheer broadcasting the wedding.

And then it all started to where we are today.

Are there any other couples in the world who have gone through such a downfall? Is this a feature of the social media arena today?
We see P Diddy and Blake Lively and others exposed now through SM.
You can't count the Duke and Duchess of Windsor in this category as they were always unpopular.

Can you think of any examples of people who have fallen so spectacularly?

I know people say " they live in California, they have money blah blah" but their reputation is one that most people would not want.

Is it purely because of their seeming complaining and sense of entitlement ? I mean you don't see the real philanthropists in this way - in fact you rarely hear about them and what they do.

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pelargoniums · 24/01/2025 13:46

Serenster · 24/01/2025 13:41

To be fair, surrogacy (as usually practiced!) does also necessarily involve ivf.

Haha, yes, true; but usually when I’m making baseless accusations about celebrities faking their pregnancies I like to make sure my terminology is accurate.

CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 13:52

Riapia · 24/01/2025 13:35

How did two rather unremarkable people gathered attention?
Neither of them is charismatic.
He’s a minor royal, she a one time actress. Neither was a success in the role. Maybe both would have been better to have tried harder in those roles.
What if they had never met? Do either of them think this, however briefly? Bet they do.

🤣🤣 minor royal is the funniest bit of this comment. If she's so uncharismatic why are yo so obsessed with her to start threads discussing the minutia of their lives..

BemusedAmerican · 24/01/2025 13:53

I am an American and a NYC resident. Lived through 911 and the aftermath. I dislike Harry because:

  • he's in my country possibly under a dodgy visa and calls our First Amendment bonkers.
  • the aviation award. He's no Sully.
  • the Pat Tillman Award. Footage in the US shows thst he was booed when he accepted it. He did nothing to deserve it. Pat's own mother asked him not to accept it.
-NYC- the car chase, the escort for the tattoos. Seriously?
  • the LA fires. He's not FEMA, an elected official, or LAFD. People were not allowed to go to their home to look for their pets and missing loved ones, yet he did a photo op on uncleared remains.
  • I'm not seeing a donation to the LAFD, still battling flames, or to the different groups helping with the animals ( yes, I donated what to me was alot of money).
-fire fighters from Canada and Mexico, despite recent tensions with the US, are assisting. Prisoners from the CA jails are fighting the fire. They are the real dragonslayers. Not Harry.

Megan is clueless, luckiest, and apparently talentless. Once again, touring the fire site was a massive sign of hubris.

Not fan of either of them.

veraswaistcoat · 24/01/2025 14:07

@BemusedAmerican it's interesting to hear your viewpoint and it has reminded me that there is a list of things which tend to get forgotten in the latest debacle.

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veraswaistcoat · 24/01/2025 14:14

@Spectre8

"It's so tenuous, it's just basically gossip and speculation and based on nothing. It's not even verified!"

This is what we are talking about. The extent of things which are thrown about on SM and in the press. Are the Sussexes highlighted more in these aspects? If so why? For instance we are hearing details about Blake Lively and we have heard about Amber Heard to just pick two out. I'm sure there are things made up about them too and in putting themselves out there they attract even more dirt slinging. Is it the quiet people who don't get this? I'm trying to think eg Reese Witherspoon - no loads of shit about her. Is it because of the Sussexes highly visible participation part of why they are targeted so much?

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veraswaistcoat · 24/01/2025 14:20

CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 13:05

Are you saying you have no opinion of anyone who has no effect on your life then ? That's a heck of a load of people !

Why would you?

You have no pinion on anyone who does not affect your life ??? That's mind blowing 😂

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Rummly · 24/01/2025 14:20

BemusedAmerican · 24/01/2025 13:53

I am an American and a NYC resident. Lived through 911 and the aftermath. I dislike Harry because:

  • he's in my country possibly under a dodgy visa and calls our First Amendment bonkers.
  • the aviation award. He's no Sully.
  • the Pat Tillman Award. Footage in the US shows thst he was booed when he accepted it. He did nothing to deserve it. Pat's own mother asked him not to accept it.
-NYC- the car chase, the escort for the tattoos. Seriously?
  • the LA fires. He's not FEMA, an elected official, or LAFD. People were not allowed to go to their home to look for their pets and missing loved ones, yet he did a photo op on uncleared remains.
  • I'm not seeing a donation to the LAFD, still battling flames, or to the different groups helping with the animals ( yes, I donated what to me was alot of money).
-fire fighters from Canada and Mexico, despite recent tensions with the US, are assisting. Prisoners from the CA jails are fighting the fire. They are the real dragonslayers. Not Harry.

Megan is clueless, luckiest, and apparently talentless. Once again, touring the fire site was a massive sign of hubris.

Not fan of either of them.

As you’re a resident of NYC, can I ask your view on the likelihood of the couple’s supposed two-hour high-speed car pursuit through New York?

Whenever I’ve visited it seems to be so clogged that I’m amazed anyone ever gets into second gear, let alone manages a French Connection-style car chase.

NormaMajors1992coat · 24/01/2025 14:23

It's just you pop up to say how people make nasty comments on here about Kate but never seen you say the say about Meghan. I mean here is someone being nasty abojt megahns pregnancy..yet you haven't commented to say how nasty it is to do that about her. So I'm just wondering why you feel the need to point it out abojt one wamn but not another?

I am struggling to keep up with you tbh and there are many, many posters already challenging the one person saying the pregnancy nonsense.

Btw I didn't pop up randomly, I answered another poster's question:

Would they allow nasty thread, after nasty thread, after nasty thread, about anyone else in the same way?

Answer: yes. I wasn't actually denying that it happens to Meghan, just answering the question, yes they would and did allow nasty thread after nasty thread about someone else.

Here is what the VF article wrote... So it's not a fact, it's not been verified to be true. It's basically a rumour.

As I said, the interesting thing is The Fact that VF printed this story. I've said that twice now 🤦‍♀️

Spectre8 · 24/01/2025 14:28

veraswaistcoat · 24/01/2025 14:14

@Spectre8

"It's so tenuous, it's just basically gossip and speculation and based on nothing. It's not even verified!"

This is what we are talking about. The extent of things which are thrown about on SM and in the press. Are the Sussexes highlighted more in these aspects? If so why? For instance we are hearing details about Blake Lively and we have heard about Amber Heard to just pick two out. I'm sure there are things made up about them too and in putting themselves out there they attract even more dirt slinging. Is it the quiet people who don't get this? I'm trying to think eg Reese Witherspoon - no loads of shit about her. Is it because of the Sussexes highly visible participation part of why they are targeted so much?

Well there is plenty in the media about her, she even spoke out about her experience of intimacy coordinators on set and her feeling coerced sometimes when she was filming.

But people choose to not comment on those articles or her interviews. So when people say wish they would go away, wish they stop this n thay. Well why don't you stop commenting and talking about them and ignore articles written about them. Seem to manage to do for other celebrities.

End of the day after seeing documentaries about social media, the recent stuff about PR companies deliberately targeting to bring someone down. Not to mention media needing to continually generate money and the use of clickbait articles. I just refuse to be sucked in to their agendas. When we have shown that this happens, that there are deliberate campaigns against ppl I no longer trust what I see appearing in socials and the press nor will I comment on it because I don't want to be a cog in their wheel fulfilling their nasty agenda.

CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 14:34

I'm an ex journalists. The reason H&M get so much press is because the lovely Camilla has the Palace and press bods such as the Piers Morgan et al in her back pocket.

How else would a woman who helped her now husband groom a 19-year-old into a marriage to be a breeding machine while she was in bed with him at the same time become the fucking Queen of English against our dear departed utterly decent Queen Elizabeth II wishes.

Camilla's rehabilitate into the public's good books is nothing less than a feat of extravagance PR. Wo,ring for a tabloid involves nothing lees,than st stunt tiles around what you can and cannot say about these parasites.

We now see this co-conspirator in Dianas abuse call herself an advocate for abused women..amazing!

As for the like of Vanity Fair, who exactly do you think their sources are?

CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 14:34

Apols for typos am on a train!

veraswaistcoat · 24/01/2025 14:35

@CeceliaImrie the Queen of English ? What on earth are you on about ?

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CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 14:36

I should probably rewrite that but you should get the gist!

CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 14:36

veraswaistcoat · 24/01/2025 14:35

@CeceliaImrie the Queen of English ? What on earth are you on about ?

Apols, typo on an iPad with a mind if it's own.

CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 14:37

OP! I think you know exactly what on earth I am on about.

Baital · 24/01/2025 14:38

CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 14:34

I'm an ex journalists. The reason H&M get so much press is because the lovely Camilla has the Palace and press bods such as the Piers Morgan et al in her back pocket.

How else would a woman who helped her now husband groom a 19-year-old into a marriage to be a breeding machine while she was in bed with him at the same time become the fucking Queen of English against our dear departed utterly decent Queen Elizabeth II wishes.

Camilla's rehabilitate into the public's good books is nothing less than a feat of extravagance PR. Wo,ring for a tabloid involves nothing lees,than st stunt tiles around what you can and cannot say about these parasites.

We now see this co-conspirator in Dianas abuse call herself an advocate for abused women..amazing!

As for the like of Vanity Fair, who exactly do you think their sources are?

And yet QE2 put out a statement in 2022 saying she hoped Camilla would become Queen. I think you need to check your sources 😅

veraswaistcoat · 24/01/2025 14:38

@Spectre8 I'm sorry but I cannot understand your post as there are too many theys in it and not sure which they you are referring to.

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DappledThings · 24/01/2025 14:39

against our dear departed utterly decent Queen Elizabeth II wishes
Rubbish. It was clearly stated it was absolutely her wish.

jeffgoldblum · 24/01/2025 14:39

Rubbish, they get the comments they do for two reasons.
1 there own behaviour.
2 there own words.

NormaMajors1992coat · 24/01/2025 14:40

End of the day after seeing documentaries about social media, the recent stuff about PR companies deliberately targeting to bring someone down. Not to mention media needing to continually generate money and the use of clickbait articles. I just refuse to be sucked in to their agendas.

But you are here on social media talking about H+M and quoting press articles about them? So how are you refusing to get sucked in again?

Or do you think that H+M detractors = media dupes, H+M supporters = smart critical thinkers?

Because I don't know, there might be an argument that says H+M detractors = smart critical thinkers, H+M supporters = PR dupes.

Spectre8 · 24/01/2025 14:40

veraswaistcoat · 24/01/2025 14:38

@Spectre8 I'm sorry but I cannot understand your post as there are too many theys in it and not sure which they you are referring to.

They as in H&M

veraswaistcoat · 24/01/2025 14:40

CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 14:37

OP! I think you know exactly what on earth I am on about.

I can see what you are trying to say but your language is making me doubt your sources .

Is there another couple in the world like The Sussexes?
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CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 14:41

OP, updated for you. I'm an ex journalist.

The reason H&M get so much press is because the lovely Camilla has the Palace and press bods such as Piers Morgan et al in her back pocket.

How else would a woman who helped her now husband groom a 19-year-old into a marriage to be a breeding machine whilst she was in bed with him at the same time become the fucking Queen of England against our dear departed and utterly decent Queen Elizabeth II wishes.

Camilla's rehabilitation into the public's good books is nothing less than a feat of extravagant PR. Working for a tabloid and most broadsheets involves strict confinements around what you can and cannot say about these parasites.

We now see this co-conspirator in Dianas abuse call herself an advocate for abused women..amazing!

As for the like of Vanity Fair, who exactly do you think their sources are?

veraswaistcoat · 24/01/2025 14:43

@Spectre8

"Well why don't you stop commenting and talking about them and ignore articles written about them. Seem to manage to do for other celebrities. "

Is this a general " you" or is it to me?

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Mylovelygreendress · 24/01/2025 14:43

CeceliaImrie · 24/01/2025 14:34

I'm an ex journalists. The reason H&M get so much press is because the lovely Camilla has the Palace and press bods such as the Piers Morgan et al in her back pocket.

How else would a woman who helped her now husband groom a 19-year-old into a marriage to be a breeding machine while she was in bed with him at the same time become the fucking Queen of English against our dear departed utterly decent Queen Elizabeth II wishes.

Camilla's rehabilitate into the public's good books is nothing less than a feat of extravagance PR. Wo,ring for a tabloid involves nothing lees,than st stunt tiles around what you can and cannot say about these parasites.

We now see this co-conspirator in Dianas abuse call herself an advocate for abused women..amazing!

As for the like of Vanity Fair, who exactly do you think their sources are?

If you - as I assume - mean Queen of England , there is no such person .

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