Is there another couple in the world like The Sussexes?

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I was musing last night about this aspect - they had the world at their feet. Despite what Sussex Supporters like to suggest most people in the UK nodded their heads " yes it was lovely Harry was getting married finally" . I had never heard of the bride myself as I don't watch American tv shows of that ilk. She was black or biracial? It didn't even enter my head what colour she was initially and then as coverage started it didn't make one iota of difference one way or the other. I recall the day of the wedding - it was sunny and the pubs were full of royal cheer broadcasting the wedding.

And then it all started to where we are today.

Are there any other couples in the world who have gone through such a downfall? Is this a feature of the social media arena today?
We see P Diddy and Blake Lively and others exposed now through SM.
You can't count the Duke and Duchess of Windsor in this category as they were always unpopular.

Can you think of any examples of people who have fallen so spectacularly?

I know people say " they live in California, they have money blah blah" but their reputation is one that most people would not want.

Is it purely because of their seeming complaining and sense of entitlement ? I mean you don't see the real philanthropists in this way - in fact you rarely hear about them and what they do.

Would they allow nasty thread, after nasty thread, after nasty thread, about anyone else in the same way?

Perhaps you missed the threads last year about how Kate had disappeared because William had beaten her up / she was divorcing him / she was having plastic surgery etc etc

I think some posters get confused with Tattle and repeat what they’ve read on there as if it had been posted on MN - the silly conspiracies and nasty comments.

Like others, I enjoy the humour in the Sussex dramas but also feel they have behaved in a poor manner on numerous occasions. Plus, of course, they are hypocrites and I defy any Supporter to actually defend this without just resorting to “What about the rf….?”

It is disingenuous to pretend they are not fascinating. All those videos of Meghan behaving in a very strange way in public. There is something very odd about her. And Harry’s trashing of the Royal family is remarkable.

Of course people are going to gossip about them and of course some people are going to have strong feelings, and others to watch with a sort of gleeful ‘what on earth are they going to do next’ fascination.

I think the number of people who love and worship them or hate them with a rage-filled passion is small in comparison to those of us who find them hugely fascinating and entertaining. Their utter lack of self awareness, self-created dramas and meaningless word salad is like watching the best soap opera - just when you thought one juicy storyline was finished along comes another to hook you in. Then you switch off and go about your day.

MaturingCheeseball

I think some posters get confused with Tattle and repeat what they’ve read on there as if it had been posted on MN - the silly conspiracies and nasty comments.

That's a thought.
I don't know anything about Tattle other than what I've read about it on MN, but it does sound like things go much further and become very unpleasant there.
About everyone famous mentioned, I imagine, not just the Sussexes.

My memory of the fake pregnancies thing on MN is that people were told off for not posting immediately on the thread to say it was rubbish, even though it was put up latish at night. Posting the next day, for example, didn't seem good enough.
Anyone not posting at all on the thread must have obviously supported the rumours. Despite the fact that perhaps they just hadn't seen the thread.

Agree about the Tattle points. I've never been on Tattle myself and it sounds a bit mad. Don't you need a rare, nay mythical, code to post on it?

The 'fake pregnancies' thread was certainly interesting. To me it shows that the shenanigans of some of the paid-up sacchari are as entertaining as the goings-on of the principals themselves.

Spot on. Perfectly put.

If you look specifically at some of the things Meghan has said and how she chooses to phrase them, I'd say she's very clever at generating ambiguity (Oprah interview and The Cut interview really spring to mind here). The interest in everything they do has funded their lifestyle to date.

I initially scoffed at the rumours that her pregnancies were fake, so I looked into the evidence. I am a midwife and although not a betting person I would lay money Markle was not pregnant with A and L.

BusyExpert

I initially scoffed at the rumours that her pregnancies were fake, so I looked into the evidence. I am a midwife and although not a betting person I would lay money Markle was not pregnant with A and L.

I used the phrase "bollocksy bollocks" once before about these "rumours" and am very tempted to use it again.
What "evidence" do you mean, @BusyExpert?

Sorry but this sort of speculation is just plain scurrilous. Meghan’s face was visibly fuller when she was pregnant.

They are real people and this is a site with open access.

How would you like someone casting doubt. on your pregnancies? It’s no one’s business but their own anyway.

Reading all of these threads, I can really understand why Harry took his family away. And yet he was wrong to do so apparently! And yet here is everyone critiquing them again! Funny that posters can’t see any correlation between the two.

Here again we have the common myth and method of attack on any posters daring to comment adversely about the Sussexes that they have " rage" . It is obvious why people say this as I said in my first sentence. It is an attempt to demean the poster - you are enraged, you are obsessed etc . It is childish . They can't think of anything else to say so resort to playground type behaviour.

Would they allow nasty thread, after nasty thread, after nasty thread, about anyone else in the same way?

They would and did. All those much nastier threads about Catherine last year.

So you agree it's nasty to comment on then divorcing? What and if she has had plastic surgery etc

I'm surprised that you are surprised that I had never heard of Suits 😂 . I couldn't name anyone else in it. I have no idea how many series it had. I have no idea which city it is supposed to be based in. How strange to decide in your own mind what it is normal for someone to be aware of based on your own hinterland. Do you think I am lying ? 😂😂

Those weren’t right either.

Two wrongs don’t make a right!

Now that is a point. Have the media had it in for them because of Harry's court challenges?

Firstly , there are rules around births for the LOS .
Secondly , Harry did not willingly take his family away . He flounced off because the late Queen said no to his half in/ half out proposal .

I wasn't actually referring to this thread. This isn't one of the ragey ones. I was speaking more generally.

As you were.

Yes that is indeed a very valid point. I think that is why I referred to people like p Diddy - all this Hollywood Schmaltz is crashing down around many ears. They all are ordinary people underneath and we are seeing people exposed now in ways I can't recall before. People " knew" about others eg being gay when it would have ended a career, people with dodgy reputations etc but it was not exposed at the time. Yes there were famous gossip writers like Hedda Hopper but today everyone is up for grabs by anyone in this new age. You just have to look online and see it all laid bare.

He flounced off because the late Queen said no to his half in/ half out proposal

As anyone with half a brain cell could have predicted she would.

Lmao there’s an internet k-hole you don’t want to go down.

Among my favourite “evidence” for the moonbump/surrogate/tricked the entire British establishment rumour:

• she crossed her legs when pregnant, apparently can’t be done and if you say it can, you weren’t pregnant either
• she squatted in heels while pregnant, ditto
• her purple dress blew about in the wind a bit, proving conclusively her moonbump fell down around her knees and we the internet experts can tell this because she smirked a bit
• went for a walk in a forest and the baby was a bit wonky in the sling, which has never happened to anyone ever, certainly not perfect MN parents, so she can’t be the mother

Then she made herself fuller of figure, rounder in the face, bought a baby from somewhere and brazenly had a group photo with the Queen with it.

And those are the sane ones, there’s an even more tonto crowd who’ll say that Archie was a doll, and that’s why the Queen looks pissed off in the photos, she’s been hoodwinked and can’t say a word because of the ~scandal.

@Onlystayingforhalfanhour543 you are free to start threads based on the things that you feel are important. No one is stopping you. We are all allowed to talk about what we like.

I find it hilarious how little Harry Meghan whingers know about historical monarchs! Those two are practically saints in the grand scheme. The in situ royals everyone think are whiter than white are about as decent and moral as their ancestors 😂🙃🤣

I wouldn't say that anyone with any sense would believe that Meghan did not carry Archie. It was obvious in her face and her body shape afterwards. I don't think I've ever seen a thread on here that was started about this but I could be wrong. While MN may be a bit crazy at times it's not that crazy ... although last year we did have the speculation that the Princess of Wales was getting divorced, beaten and dead etc from certain sectors.