Cheese and royal gossip 2 , cheese harder

[jeffgoldblum]

A second thread!

A thread for cheese , recipes, humour and general chat about the royal family. http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/theroyall_family/5006254-a-thread-for-cheese-recipes-humour-and-general-chat-about-the-royal-family

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Reporting for duty 🧀🫡

Cheese on!!! @Turtlerussell , cheese on!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5006254-a-thread-for-cheese-recipes-humour-and-general-chat-about-the-royal-family
Old thread.
Thanks, Jeff 🙂

All the cheese.

Thanks @Maireas and @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar , with the official crest , we are ready !

No probs, Jeff 👍
Love that Coat of Arms Milkshake - that really is a work of genius and should be embroidered on our capes!

Thank you @Maireas and@jeffgoldblum . It was inspired by all the fab posts. Cape on and ready to go!

Reporting for duty, Ma’am to rhyme with jam.

Off on a tangent but .... nothing much has been said about Harry's interference in Canadas First Nations affairs!!!
Why is this not being mentioned more???

Exactly! And why aren’t they digging deeper into the African Parks scandal

Instead it’s all about Harry loving his family

I saw a few articles but wonder if no one is taking it that seriously. I don’t imagine Charles will want anyone to pull him up on it.
Do you think he just hasn’t figured out how not to be in a place without representing the Crown?

Possibly 2 reasons come to my mind. First, because there will be words being had behind the scenes via diplomatic channels. Any direct statement against Harry will just have him firing back, more accusations of racism, Empire 2.0, I will not be broken etc. He's a loose cannon and can't take any criticism. Best to tell the people at the heart of it to ignore him/that he doesn't represent the crown and will have no influence on policy, and to do that via diplomats, not the media.

Second, since William's statement on the Middle East is sailing close to the political wind (and has obviously been worked on and had government approval), they don't want to create a row between brothers/different rules for each type scenario in the press, which will happen if Harry gets told off (and a lot of the press is anti William having spoken).

It's classic handling of a narcissist, imo. Grey stone, don't fuel them, that's what they want.

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar I think you are right.

Also, what would actual justice for First Nations look like? We can’t undo what has been done here in the United States. People talk about reparations but in a practical sense, that would not suddenly make things right, fair and equitable for people who have experienced generations of disenfranchisement. It took hundreds of years to get here. Surely it’s the same in Canada. That’s why Harry’s comments seem so clueless to me.

Indeed @AliceOlive ! , the sins of the father and all that!!!

Charles had previously initiated talks with the First Nations and there is to be a follow up . Harry is scrabbling trying to hang onto his father's coat tails and pretend he is still important. I'm 100% positive that at some point in the future if this comes up H will say that it was just related to the Invictus Games and the lands they are using.

William has started onto dangerous ground imo with his Middle East comments. It's a strange one.

The only worthwhile public statement he has ever made to be fair.

If "the Murdoch press" had it in for Harry to the extent the sugars believe, you'd think this would be headline news in multiple papers multiple times a week.

To be fair Charles occasionally dabbled and made political comments when he was pow , I believe he even made a comment about now he's monarch he can't do so anymore?
Unless I'm mistaken!

Separate topic but I always find it interesting when threads go quiet. Like when someone makes a personal comment that goes against the assertion on the thread. @MrsM having lived in the Caribbean shut a thread down for a while, for example. Then came the insults. And yesterday someone posting about how exhilarating it is to be an actor so William’s comment was not out of line. No one who wants him to have made a huge gaffe will touch that.

I admit I judge people by how they react in the face of info that is opposed to their entrenched position. It’s too rare that we see anyone being gracious about it.

Another thing I notice is random nitpicking over an inane detail, and ignoring of the wider point. And the passive aggressive digs in there too, almost as if they want the poster to respond angrily so the conversation implodes. And when people respond calmly and stay on track - they’ll continue to avoid the actual debate and eventually radio silence. It becomes clear there isn’t really a rebuttal to the point they supposedly disagree with. Or they don’t really care.

If I was really cynical I’d say he partly jetted off to see his dad knowing that would end up being the tabloid fodder, burying the more serious story…