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Surely H&M will have to dis-own these friends who have spoken out?

180 replies

Romanceisntdead · 28/11/2023 17:20

The info in the OS book is only what your closest friends or family would know.

If they have spilled the info surely they would have asked H&M first?

Some of it is so extremely personal.

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NuttyYouSayHmmmmmn · 02/12/2023 19:29

Do you think Charles is rapidly rewriting and refilling his Christmas speech?

GodDammitCecil · 02/12/2023 19:56

BubbleBubbleBubbleBubblePop · 29/11/2023 20:14

Pardon?

I think the point is, if you haven’t heard of Omid Scobie and his new book (as I hadn’t, until I read this thread), then you’re probably on the wrong thread.

I knew there has been some gossip involving allegations of racism against senior Royals, but I didn’t know any of the details.

This thread has been enlightening.

It did actually occur to me that things had gone very quiet on the H&M (I also thought the store) front, and that surely something must be brewing, for fear of them slipping into obscurity.

The two of them could be an actual force for good in this world, going out of their way to completely disassociate themselves from the Royal Family. Making their own name for themselves, and a positive difference.

But instead, they’re a continual negative presence, leeching from their Royal connection. Offering up nothing.

And they expect this to win them friends and fans.

Are they really that stupid, or is there something else at play? And what does their increasingly diminishing pool of fans like about them?

Maireas · 02/12/2023 20:07

NuttyYouSayHmmmmmn · 02/12/2023 19:29

Do you think Charles is rapidly rewriting and refilling his Christmas speech?

No, I doubt it'll change at all.

Viviennemary · 02/12/2023 21:22

Friends are disowning them more like. Just read Meghan and Harry not invited to the Duke of Westminster's wedding. William And Kate are both invited. They are being frozen out.

GodDammitCecil · 02/12/2023 22:26

Why would anyone invite them?

They've shown they’ll tell the world literally everything anyone says to them.

They’re the most indiscreet couple in the world.

It’s how they earn their money. But it also has consequences.

Mylovelygreendress · 02/12/2023 22:42

Viviennemary · 02/12/2023 21:22

Friends are disowning them more like. Just read Meghan and Harry not invited to the Duke of Westminster's wedding. William And Kate are both invited. They are being frozen out.

We should run a competition for the best suggestion what they will do on the wedding day ( which will of course be captured by Backgrid)

pilates · 03/12/2023 19:27

There are no “friends”

Frasers · 03/12/2023 20:54

oddly the daily fail is reporting that Megan felt she should have more of a voice than Kate, as she had a career, and didn’t wish to play second fiddle to her and William, and thought she could teach the royals a thing or two about philanthropy

I say oddly as for the first time in a long time reading the mail. I think it sounds true. I recall harry in the docu series going on about how Megan was going to show the monarchy how it was done, throw out all the old traditions, and start new ones. I recall watching it and thinking that’s so arrogant, thinking Megan , an actress, and not one of note, would be in a position to rework the British monarchy.

so I think thr article might be true, that he was telling her that , and she believed that nonsense. And found it was nonsense. She’s married the spare. They were never going to outshine the future king snd queen, and she was always going to play second fiddle.

LumiB · 03/12/2023 21:47

Romanceisntdead · 29/11/2023 08:16

I meant that's H and M done for because of .their association with OS alone and now this revealing of the royals who spoke about skin colour...will be the final straw. But how can names have been revealed in the Netherlands trabslation when they were not un the original book????

Well if that's the case you would of thought Prince Andrew would have been done for for his association with Epstein...but look how that turned out

LumiB · 03/12/2023 21:50

Viviennemary · 02/12/2023 21:22

Friends are disowning them more like. Just read Meghan and Harry not invited to the Duke of Westminster's wedding. William And Kate are both invited. They are being frozen out.

They are friends with both the brothers. Now if your in that society and want to keep your status of course you are going to pick the king queen and William. Not to mention if they had invited Harry and megahn instead the entire press would be all over the wedding in a nasty way just to get pictures since they make alot of money with clickbait articles of them it would be a goldmine.

I think anyone would not want that for their wedding.

Frasers · 03/12/2023 21:54

LumiB · 03/12/2023 21:47

Well if that's the case you would of thought Prince Andrew would have been done for for his association with Epstein...but look how that turned out

Well andrew was. It was part of his undoing.

Chouxpastryishard · 03/12/2023 21:56

Somewhere else it says one of Harry’s other friends has invited them for Xmas. They also have lots of other invites in the US. I feel that information is being fed to the Press as PR once again. If true. Yah boo sucks to someone methinks.

Frasers · 03/12/2023 21:56

YouAreMyCentreWhenISpinAway · 02/12/2023 18:19

I can’t understand why they’ve not spoken up, whatever side they’d be on. It’s bizarre.

If they have collaborated with scobie, and then turn on him publicly. Scobie can reveal the truth that it all came from them, and do a lot of damage, it’s very clear why they’ve not spoken out against him. They can’t risk Scobie telling the world what they did.

Chouxpastryishard · 03/12/2023 21:56

He’ll have kept the paper trail too.

JenniferJupiterVenusandMars · 04/12/2023 06:42

I suspect that Scobie has a stack of stuff he would expose if the Sussexes turned on him, just as Meghan claims she could write a book too.

pilates · 04/12/2023 06:50

Yes that’s why H&M haven’t spoken up they need to keep OS sweet.

ThePoshUns · 04/12/2023 06:57

They've properly backed themselves into a corner. All of their own making.

Viviennemary · 04/12/2023 07:43

Just read Scobie's agent did send a manuscript with the names in it to the translator. Who put in the names. Not me Guv. Looking more like a publicity stunt to me. The royals need to sue IMHO. Put a stop to this nonsense. Or else its going to go on for years.

LumiB · 04/12/2023 08:00

ALittleTeawithmilk · 30/11/2023 14:29

If you are talking about what was printed in the Dutch version, there’s more possible sources than just Harry and Meghan. Scobie was a royal reporter for years. Royal reporters have sources within the palace.

But also:

Dan Wootton said back in July 19 2023 that he knew who said what. And he’s no friend of Harry and Meghan’s.

Also Piers Morgan said two days ago that he knew who said it. But strangely he said he didn’t know how Scobie would know? I would think that Piers should have calculated that if he knows & Wootton knows, there’s every chance Scobie knew along and probably the whole rest of pack of royal reporters knew because they would share and exchange information.

We don’t know if anyone one of them is right of course. It’s still, at this point, unsubstantiated. Could be two entirely different royals, or just one, or three etc., or one royal and an aide of some sort.

Edited

Very sensible post, rare amongst these royal threads.

Maireas · 04/12/2023 08:11

That's the point, @ALittleTeawithmilk - it could be anyone. It's such a general, vague, yet damning accusation.
Piers Morgan is good friends with Beatrice and Eugenie. I saw pictures of him embracing Eugenie outside a restaurant, quite recently.
Dan Wootton has claimed many things, so who knows. Ultimately, this book seems to be about harming the royal family, and it seems to be gunning for Kate in particular - so who would benefit from that?

EdithWeston · 04/12/2023 08:27

Viviennemary · 04/12/2023 07:43

Just read Scobie's agent did send a manuscript with the names in it to the translator. Who put in the names. Not me Guv. Looking more like a publicity stunt to me. The royals need to sue IMHO. Put a stop to this nonsense. Or else its going to go on for years.

Edited

Where did you read that? (Genuine question btw)

And it begs the question of who else was writing this book, as Scobie is utterly insistent he is not responsible for it containing names

Frasers · 04/12/2023 08:30

EdithWeston · 04/12/2023 08:27

Where did you read that? (Genuine question btw)

And it begs the question of who else was writing this book, as Scobie is utterly insistent he is not responsible for it containing names

It’s all over the media outlets.

Frasers · 04/12/2023 08:37

I was thinking about them last night, it’s the children I feel sorry for.

maybe because my family is small, with Limited extended family for my own child, that it makes me realise, that Archie and Lilly are growing up without grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins. They only have Doria.

sure they occasionally do a video call with Charles, very occasionally, but they are strangers. Charles hasn’t even met Lilly, We saw at a concert how little Louis went and sat on Charles’s knee, without being asked, so he’s clearly a hands on grandparent close to the kids.

I wonder how they will feel, when they grow up and see their parents interviews, read spare.

indoubt there will be legal action against Scobie, because it will result in him saying Megan and harry are behind the leak, that it was just another attack of theirs when it was written. . And Charles and Kate would need to argue against the validity of it, plus it’s already been pulled.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 04/12/2023 08:54

Not necessarily. Kate Middleton hasn't publicly disowned her mother who was actually named as a source by Camilla Tominey has she? Kate and William haven't disowned their staff who have briefed against other family members either, nor have Charles and Camilla. The whole lot of them are constantly gossiping and trying to get one over everyone else, they're far worse than the Kardashians. That's if Meghan and Harry even had anything much to do with it, the names seem to have been common knowledge.

Anyway, why shouldn't they be named? The family is publicly funded (unlike Meghan and Harry). They should remember that and behave themselves instead of being constantly embroiled in scandals and they're just the ones we hear about.

Motnight · 04/12/2023 08:55

Frasers · 04/12/2023 08:30

It’s all over the media outlets.

It's bizarre. According to The Times it wasn't the final draft that contained the names but an earlier one.

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