Surely H&M will have to dis-own these friends who have spoken out?

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The info in the OS book is only what your closest friends or family would know.

If they have spilled the info surely they would have asked H&M first?

Some of it is so extremely personal.

@Alltheprettyseahorses - "briefings against each other" like Harry claims in Spare?
Where's the evidence - aside from Harry's claims?

It's all quite embarrassing and shameful. Makes me glad my family isn't famous!

Did you read spare and believe it? 😄

I haven't read Spare. I actually cited another source, not that it matters on this board. I did actually read that Finding Freedom crap because everyone was going on about it, 99p on kindle that rubbish cost me, and that was enough royal twaddle for me. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of the Windsors knows they're all at war with each other. You do all know briefing allegations aren't a new thing don't you?

(the Windsors) are all at war with each other
Are they? What's the evidence?
They all seemed to get on and socialise well whenever I've seen them out and about, and they all meet up at Sandringham and Balmoral. Plus it all looked very happy at the Jubilee party and Charles' 75th do.
I think someone is just stirring.

Charles himself even wrote a book about it. It's nothing new and far from secret - I'm just about old enough to remember the later Diana stuff. Scheming and plotting has been the favourite royal hobby since the first crown was made

Charles didn't write a book about it.

He wrote a pot-stirrer about how his parents didn't live him.

He didn't write a pot stirrer.
What book are you talking about?

If you mean the Dimbleby book, there's no comparison at all to "Spare".
Or Oprah/Netflix/The Cut, etc etc.
It's actually quite a dull book. He had a very unhappy time at Gordonstoun and wishes his parents would have agreed to move him.

What book are you talking about, Charles has never written a biography. There was a very dull book by dimbleby, but it wasn’t remotely salacious, Charles collaborated and gave it a seal of approval.

Yes, Charles collaborated with the book that strongly criticised his parents. I don't know why you're all so invested in defending the Windsors. Leave them all to their constant petty infighting and gossip-mongering. But then that would defeat the object of this board.

Meghan should publicly disown Omid Scobie he seems a bit of a liability

It didn’t strongly criticise. You’ve clearly not read it. People are not defending the windsors, they are pointing out you’re posting made up nonsense.

Yes, and if they had nothing to do with this book I am absolutely sure they would. The fact they aren’t, speaks volumes.

Have you actually read the book?

exactly. The Sussex’s always make a point of publicly saying when something major isn’t them, they also have a major issue with not disproving media lies, so the fact they won’t speak out against Scobie says very clearly they are behind this named racism accusation.

people need to remember this book was written a couple of years ago. Not yesterday. It was written at the height of the bad feeling, when harry and Megan were on the attack. Now of course they are tying to get their feet back under the table with the royals, and so it was redacted from the latest version before it went to print.

if they speak out against scobie, he will immediately tell the world it was them. So they need to stay silent,and hope the palace don’t take legal action, as it would come out in court too.

charles and William will know though. Charles won’t want it coming out in court it was harry and Megan. William might.

H&M have done so much worse than they've ever accused the RF of doing as far as leaking personal conversations, planting stories, upstaging other members of the RF, and personally attacking members of the family with nick names and nastiness, with no regard to their mental or emotional well being.

They are just awful, and yet see themselves as victims. My full sympathies lie with the RF, I really hope they can somehow stop these megalomaniacs.

Ever since H&M decided to leave the RF (and specifically the manner in which they choose to do that) I've felt they are both highly naive in their understanding of how much public interest stems not from them as couple, but from their ties to the monarchy.

Their interviews/book garnered attention because it provided insight into the private life of the RF.

As the rift continues, the reality for H&M is that so does their access to new content/revelations and I think H&M have a very overstated sense of their own importance/platform as an independent couple when their profile is dependent on milking an historical association with an institution they clearly distain and family they hold in contempt.

The reaction to these names being made public is quite telling in comparison to the outrage post Oprah and has for the most part reflected worse on H&M than the RF.

Put bluntly, if you are going to make serious allegations stick then you are going to need credibility when making them.

Unfortunately for H&M their credibility is shot through their own repeated output of mis-information, outright lies (to the extent of being publicly chastised in court) and contradictory messaging.

It's also worth pointing out again that M has been out of the RF longer than she was in it and I'm not seeing anything from her or H in that time that's cemented anything worthy of being a global power couple in their own right.

Continuing to make money from the past only serves to highlight the fact they have nothing else to offer.

Ultimately the RF don't need to "do" anything re: H&M other than keep their distance and grey rock.

I agree, a large part of the problem harry and Megan have is a complete lack of any career. The podcasts were disastrous, Netflix was all about the trash talking docu series, and there appears nothing much else happening,they really just have invictus. They aren’t even known for doing charity work past that, it’s the bare minimum.

I actually wonder what they both do all day every day.

If they had a career, then they’d be known for other things, and their attacks in the royals would take more of a back seat. But there is literally nothing.

there was soo much interest in them when they married, they literally had their choice, millions being thrown at them since then and on leaving, and all they have done is leverage their royal name and sell grubby stories. With rumours of ridiculous proposals like interviewing putin on his child hood, and buying a books rights, like that will solve their issues.

Well, from the small glimspes I have seen (through work) of people that wealthy they tend to be terribly busy with all sorts of social occasions that are counted as work (charity committees, playing polo etc), followed by a travelling social circuit of holidays in the right place at the right time to recover, but that does depend on being enmeshed in a network of smiliar people you have known for years who are all keeping busy in the same way.

If you cut yourself off from that I should imagine it's pretty lonely, unless you have the humility to get stuck in with something low status that interests you, e.g. the Duchess of Kent teaching music.

I agree, parcsandrecs. Years ago I worked for a big US socialite (nightmare…). Yes, it’s one big round of being Busy Doing Nothing.

I assume Meghan is busy hustling and trying to make connections. Harry is probably literally doing nothing. I can’t imagine for one second he is doing childcare.