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Kate Hate

422 replies

MamoruHisaishi · 23/07/2023 12:03

I came across some old threads in other forums and also articles where Catherine was being criticized for being lazy, dumb, overrated, a gold digger and called all sorts of names. There were even threads that questioned why people disliked her so much, and multiple pages of replies stating why she was so disliked. I am wondering why this seems to have now been forgotten, even if Meghan became the new media target, why is it hardly mentioned the amount of hate and vitriol that Catherine went through?

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skullbabe · 23/07/2023 19:13

@AcesBaseballbat and @Roussette saw that coming a mile off 🤣- hence me not directly engaging.

skullbabe · 23/07/2023 19:15

DreamTheMoors · 23/07/2023 18:50

You’re right, @Samcro

And where would they get their racist frustrations out?
I suppose they could always go to Twitter or Quora, where there’s a mountain of hatred for both the Sussexes. Oh - and denial that their children exist.
SMH

I thought Reddit was bad but good god Quora 😅👀

DreamTheMoors · 23/07/2023 19:36

Tidsleytiddy · 23/07/2023 18:36

I’m not the one picking on anyone tho am I. I’m referring to the media.

If you’re referring to the media, you say you’re referring to the media.

How many posts have you made where you have not referenced “the media” in any way?

Although people on Mumsnet are many things, they are not mindreaders.

inverness123 · 23/07/2023 20:12

DreamTheMoors · 23/07/2023 17:13

Did any of those ladies go through the vicious racism and hatred that Meghan has gone through for the past seven long years, though?

And why on god’s green earth should something so abhorrent “go with the territory?”

The double standards are striking.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

This is pretty stark but I wonder how easy it would be to do it the other way round? There are endless articles about the royals, some positive, most negative. These are not the same people writing the same articles at the same time. Kate has had horrendous press over the years. Has either of them had anything has bad as the poll on whether people would rather have sex with the Duchess of York or a pig? Meghan’s popularity rating was massively high in the early days - way higher than Kate’s, who was compared to her unfavourably until after the move away from the royal family.

luckylavender · 23/07/2023 20:22

MamoruHisaishi · 23/07/2023 12:13

I just find it interesting that some of the criticism directed at Kate back then seems to be a repeat of the criticism that's now directed at Meghan. I wonder whether the same criticism was directed back then at diana and fergie. It seems like the royal women, especially those who marry into it, really do suffer the brunt of the attacks. Oh and it's not just the uk royals who suffer from it. Princess Mary is another popular target of criticism it seems.

Too true. Anne hasn't always had glorious coverage, neither did Margaret, nor Sophie. The York girls have been treated poorly & Camilla was vilified too. It's definitely a woman thing.

RYGO · 23/07/2023 20:49

inverness123 · 23/07/2023 20:12

This is pretty stark but I wonder how easy it would be to do it the other way round? There are endless articles about the royals, some positive, most negative. These are not the same people writing the same articles at the same time. Kate has had horrendous press over the years. Has either of them had anything has bad as the poll on whether people would rather have sex with the Duchess of York or a pig? Meghan’s popularity rating was massively high in the early days - way higher than Kate’s, who was compared to her unfavourably until after the move away from the royal family.

"Meghan’s popularity rating was massively high in the early days - way higher than Kate’s, who was compared to her unfavourably until after the move away from the royal family."

Yes Kate had horrendous media for a very long time. I think around ten years. She also had her privacy broken with those pictures in France. They went around the world. She had her phone hacked 155 times. She was stalked by grown men with a camera 24/7 for a very long time without protection. And you could go on and on. People have just a very short attention spam.

But Meghan was never more popular then Kate in those polls. Every poll Kate was more popular then her. Only thing is that she was indeed unfavorably compared to Meghan in tabloids. But that's just tabloids for you. Meghan was the new shiny thing in town. But that didn't last very long.

inverness123 · 23/07/2023 20:58

RYGO · 23/07/2023 20:49

"Meghan’s popularity rating was massively high in the early days - way higher than Kate’s, who was compared to her unfavourably until after the move away from the royal family."

Yes Kate had horrendous media for a very long time. I think around ten years. She also had her privacy broken with those pictures in France. They went around the world. She had her phone hacked 155 times. She was stalked by grown men with a camera 24/7 for a very long time without protection. And you could go on and on. People have just a very short attention spam.

But Meghan was never more popular then Kate in those polls. Every poll Kate was more popular then her. Only thing is that she was indeed unfavorably compared to Meghan in tabloids. But that's just tabloids for you. Meghan was the new shiny thing in town. But that didn't last very long.

Sorry, you’re right. I was thinking of Harry becoming the most popular royal after their engagement.

DreamTheMoors · 23/07/2023 22:36

inverness123 · 23/07/2023 20:12

This is pretty stark but I wonder how easy it would be to do it the other way round? There are endless articles about the royals, some positive, most negative. These are not the same people writing the same articles at the same time. Kate has had horrendous press over the years. Has either of them had anything has bad as the poll on whether people would rather have sex with the Duchess of York or a pig? Meghan’s popularity rating was massively high in the early days - way higher than Kate’s, who was compared to her unfavourably until after the move away from the royal family.

@Whoarethegrownups

It’s ALL bad. Comparing who got treated worse at what time is not the point.

The point is it’s all bad all the time, from the time journalists trashed Margaret until people continually trashing Meghan today. Social media has made it 5000% worse and somehow more acceptable.

And I’ll never understand why people are so hateful towards women they don’t know, will never meet and who have no effect on their lives whatsoever.
It’s absurd.

DreamTheMoors · 23/07/2023 22:40

skullbabe · 23/07/2023 19:15

I thought Reddit was bad but good god Quora 😅👀

@skullbabe

I think my mute & block list on Quora due to the hate & denial & craziness must be a mile long.
It’s made Quora a much more enjoyable place.

wordsthreerandom · 23/07/2023 22:43

CuriouslyDifferent · 23/07/2023 12:06

Kate is lovely. End of story.

Meghan can stay away. Win win.

100% agree with this.

Catherine is pure class.

Meghan seems awful, no class at all

Samcro · 23/07/2023 22:52

wordsthreerandom · 23/07/2023 22:43

100% agree with this.

Catherine is pure class.

Meghan seems awful, no class at all

lol
a post that proves my point

wordsthreerandom · 23/07/2023 23:03

If only I had the time and inclination to see what your point was.
But I don't.
I stand by my opinion whether you like it or not.

DreamTheMoors · 23/07/2023 23:40

wordsthreerandom · 23/07/2023 23:03

If only I had the time and inclination to see what your point was.
But I don't.
I stand by my opinion whether you like it or not.

Her point is that you hate someone you don’t know, will never meet and who has absolutely no effect on your life whatsoever.

It isn’t brain science or rocket surgery.
What it IS, however, is absurd.

Nono22972 · 23/07/2023 23:41

wordsthreerandom · 23/07/2023 22:43

100% agree with this.

Catherine is pure class.

Meghan seems awful, no class at all

How can you say that when we don't know any of these women personally?

I think people are determined to blame Meghan for the rift between Harry and his family and especially between the brothers but in Harry's own words, he and William were not as close as people believed. Diana's death probably brought them together for a little bit and while they loved each other, they then they naturally drifted apart. Then, William got married and obviously his wife and children became his priority while Harry was still single without children.

I even remember when he was asked about Charlotte's birth, he said that he hadn't seen (talked to?) W&K in a while. And also, when the Waleses got engaged in 2010, Harry said that he was looking forward to get to know Kate. If you are close to your brother, why would you just be getting to know the woman he's been dating for 7-8 years?
He and William had already been drifting apart years before Meghan was in the picture.

In Meghan's own words: "She (Kate)'s a good person. If you love me, you don't need to hate her and if you love her, you don't need to hate me"

PrincessTigger · 23/07/2023 23:53

Meghan got blamed for so much, I feel really sorry for her. Harry is toxic. She has said some critical things about the Markles, deservedly tbh, however nothing even comes close to how nasty Harry has been about his own family. It’s all him.

Nono22972 · 24/07/2023 00:01

PrincessTigger · 23/07/2023 23:53

Meghan got blamed for so much, I feel really sorry for her. Harry is toxic. She has said some critical things about the Markles, deservedly tbh, however nothing even comes close to how nasty Harry has been about his own family. It’s all him.

The Markles have been a mess, especially Samantha. I don't even understand how some people defend them.

I felt sorry for the dad at first but now, he's just as bad as the siblings as far as I'm concerned

wordsthreerandom · 24/07/2023 00:01

PrincessTigger · 23/07/2023 23:53

Meghan got blamed for so much, I feel really sorry for her. Harry is toxic. She has said some critical things about the Markles, deservedly tbh, however nothing even comes close to how nasty Harry has been about his own family. It’s all him.

I think they are both as toxic and bitter as each other

DreamTheMoors · 24/07/2023 00:09

PrincessTigger · 23/07/2023 23:53

Meghan got blamed for so much, I feel really sorry for her. Harry is toxic. She has said some critical things about the Markles, deservedly tbh, however nothing even comes close to how nasty Harry has been about his own family. It’s all him.

And you know this because you’re a member of the RF, or an intimate friend of a member of the RF, or someone the Rf leaks to, or a friend of a friend…
Or is that you Piers, you Lady C, or you Dan Wooton, or some other illustrious member of the media?
Or maybe it’s YOU, Angela Levin, the supreme end all & be all expert of experts on Harry.

Or are you just a random on the internet like everybody else who likes to name & shame & blame people because it makes you feel like you’re part of the “in-crowd?”

SlideandPolka · 24/07/2023 00:15

Pieceofpurplesky · 23/07/2023 13:11

There were loads of articles that insinuated that Diana was thick. All mentioned her lack of qualifications.

Fergie was a horsey posh girl yuppy in the press.

Sophie was a commoner ...

Well, hard to disagree with the fact that Diana, in the most charitable interpretation, was not academically able, surely? A wildly expensive education, resulting in an O-level and award for hamster care or something.

wordsthreerandom · 24/07/2023 00:19

Does it really matter if she was academically able or not?

Gracewithoutend · 24/07/2023 00:43

DreamTheMoors · 24/07/2023 00:09

And you know this because you’re a member of the RF, or an intimate friend of a member of the RF, or someone the Rf leaks to, or a friend of a friend…
Or is that you Piers, you Lady C, or you Dan Wooton, or some other illustrious member of the media?
Or maybe it’s YOU, Angela Levin, the supreme end all & be all expert of experts on Harry.

Or are you just a random on the internet like everybody else who likes to name & shame & blame people because it makes you feel like you’re part of the “in-crowd?”

But surely you don't have to have intimate knowledge of RF to have a form an opinion of Harry from his documentary and his book and his interviews and his statements. It's him that is putting himself and all his private business into the public sphere.
People are obviously going to form an opinion of him and his activities and just like he's happy to express what he thinks about everything, he will obviously have been expecting others will express what they think about him.

GetWhatYouWant · 24/07/2023 00:45

SlideandPolka · 24/07/2023 00:15

Well, hard to disagree with the fact that Diana, in the most charitable interpretation, was not academically able, surely? A wildly expensive education, resulting in an O-level and award for hamster care or something.

Diana did publicly once describe herself as thick as two short planks( or maybe it was one plank, I can't remember) which of course was gleefully picked up by the press and never forgotten, so that wasn't something made up by the media. I believe she later regretted making such a comment.

Sophie was a commoner i.e. she was untitled and not born into aristocracy. Newsworthy at the time because she married one of the monarch's children.

PrincessTigger · 24/07/2023 00:52

DreamTheMoors · 24/07/2023 00:09

And you know this because you’re a member of the RF, or an intimate friend of a member of the RF, or someone the Rf leaks to, or a friend of a friend…
Or is that you Piers, you Lady C, or you Dan Wooton, or some other illustrious member of the media?
Or maybe it’s YOU, Angela Levin, the supreme end all & be all expert of experts on Harry.

Or are you just a random on the internet like everybody else who likes to name & shame & blame people because it makes you feel like you’re part of the “in-crowd?”

Apparently you haven’t heard, don’t worry I can fill you in: he wrote a 400 page book (and narrated it himself), made a 6 hour documentary/reality show, was interviewed by Oprah Winfrey no less, appeared on a number of podcasts, and gave several speeches including at the UN. So he’s not as shy and retiring as you think.

DreamTheMoors · 24/07/2023 01:22

Oh please please please @PrincessTigger

PLEASE quote me where I said I think Harry is shy and retiring.

I’ll wait.

MissTrip82 · 24/07/2023 07:32

You stumbled upon multiple threads and articles about a total stranger from a decade or more ago?

Goodness you’re quite the stumbler.

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